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    Wikipedia Blackout.

    So...what's your opinionon wikipedia's 24 hour blackout to protest SOPA and PIPA?

    I personally think this is the most idiotic thing Wikipedia can do.
    It makes a message, sure but...it's detremental to many people. People depend on wikipedia not only for assignments in school, but for work.
    But more importantly, by shutting down wikipedia, they're going against their own pillars. They want to be an encyclopedia open to everyone for free. Yet they're actually shutting it down to protest a bill.
    Immaturity at it's finest.

    Wikipedia really should have taken a page from sites like google. Google simply put a censor bar over their logo. It still sends the message, but doesn't stop the entire site.

    I have never donated to wikipedia before, but when they're being pathetically ironic and shutting down after begging for donaions for over a month, I certainly won't donate in the future.
    Decent idea, horrible execution.
    Iwoldn't be surprised if wikipedia stops his 24 hour black out by noon.

    EDIT: Apparently the blackout isn't impossible to circumvent. But...in order to figure that out, you have to click on the SOPA/PIPA link and find the instructions in about 30 seconds before the black out screen comes up again.

    Here's how to circumvent it since James Wales has started acting like an angry year old who can't get his juice box.

    Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?

    Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message.

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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    I believe that's exactly the point they're trying to get across. They want to show you first-hand would would happen should SOPA/PIPA ever pass: censorship of knowledge as well as new ideas, censorship of business...censorship of progress overall. It shows what would happen should big government ever get a hold of how we should act or think over the internet and manipulate corporate favor while affecting smaller businesses in negative fashions, It would slow our development as a nation over time. Also, blocking copyrighted material being blocked on user-made websites like wikis and sites like this, just because government doesn't believe we place credit where it's due, along with the assumption that we aren't buying said copyrighted products blocks exposure to various markets! It's an extremely inefficient way to go about things and just brings legal liability.

    If you want to put out data that threatens or express rational opinions against a person, place or thing, they could deem it harmful or incriminating. Say bye-bye to free speech and free knowledge to the american people. This is relevant to wikipedia because it is user-based content everyone depends on, and while copyrighted content is posted there, it gives credit where it's due. And because we're using all that content for the sake of information, SOPA is basically saying, "hey, you can't use all that stuff without their permission!" It would literally come across as big, black bars and screens on every article on wiki you could possibly want to look for.

    As for Google, it is pretty good way to raise awareness, but in my opinion it doesn't send that strong a message. People would still be on the internet googling things, and I'll be speaking skeptically here- how many other places are putting out SOPA/PIPA awareness? Youtube certainly isn't taking part in the blackout right now, and neither is Facebook like they said they would.

    We do abide copyright laws, but just because people are pirating copyrighted content, it doesn't mean the government should block everything. It's a tough issue to handle, but it can't be done like this bill seeks out to do. I really do think Jimmy is in the right here, and this could lead to desperate times if this bill passes...and desperate times call for desperate measures. This is a congress that tells us Pizza is a vegetable, and that scares the bejeezus me.
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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    Wikipedia was never passionate about it anyway. They've only done it to appease the masses. This is evident by the fact that it is very easy to bypass the "blackout" by disabling JavaScript and other methods. It's a ridiculous method of blacking out a website. Of course, the average person wouldn't know how to get past it, but it allows the site to continue its operations.

    I believe the reason they weren't passionate is because, like me, perhaps they see SOPA as a little sensationalistic and something that probably won't pass. We've had things like this in the past. But everybody jumps on the mass panic bandwagon.
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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    SOPA is indeed a sensationalist bill, which is why there's going to be very little chances of it passing. Hypothically speaking though, should it pass, we can't but help think of the possibilties.

    I mean, I help run an internet-based business doing graphic designs for designer pet beds, and some of these beds use paintings from famous painters such as Andre Matisse and Vincent Van Gogh, for a "Great Masters" theme of beds. What would happen if the US Government thought that was copyright infringement? We would be in deep for putting a playful interpretation on some historic paintings.

    It would be one of the most idiotic things I would have ever seen, because...well, they've passed on! On what grounds would my parents and I be taken to court for these issues? Congress really needs a reality check-up every time they go to vote on ridiculous bills such as SOPA.
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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    my theory is that they didnt get enough donations so this blackout thing is trying to make a "personal appeal" to redditors...

    i say that in good humor, but i agree with pseudohippie on this one. it`s not a big deal but it really is a petty nuisance. i dunno, i guess i just have a really short fuse when it comes to these college-student-dominated noisy internet-based movements (see:OWS)... of course im anti sopa/pipa but making such a fuss about it is rather bizarre.

    sorry about the jumble of uncaps`d text, im typing this from my DSXL.

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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    I actually found out about this while going to Google and I just saw the big sticker on top of the logo like pseudo mentioned. However, I started to look it up more not because of Google, but because when I was trying to look at the forums of the Guild that I am in on this MMO, they blocked their site talking about the SOPA and how it will shut us down and so they are making a statement as well.

    This whole act of blacking out sites to give us a taste of what could happen helps and also hinders. Like everyone has stated before, sites are doing what the act will do and therefore already preventing people to go and use the site freely while they still can (hypothetically). On the other hand, it did get my attention and I did look it up to actually see what was happening. It reminds me of this one event where the band Rage Against The Machine was at a concert and instead of performing, came out with tape over there mouth, their t-shirts spelling out, either an act or a company, that was giving censorship to music. And for the entire time they were supposed to be on stage performing, they left static on and stood there. Everyone was pissed, mainly because of the fact that they didn't play for their fans as well as the Act or Company that they were stating in their "protest" have been gone for a LONG time before this happened. So I can understand Pseudo why you would be upset and see it as not helping out at all.

    But I really do hope that this act does not get passed mainly for the fact that it will just be another way to strip peoples liberties from them. The Internet to me, should not be dominated or controlled. No one owns the internet; and I am not saying that piracy isn't an issue, it is a huge issue, but this Act, to me, won't stop anything. Are thousands, possibly millions of dollars are being taken by piracy? Possibly, in fact, when I was watching this podcast called "Feedback" on G4TV.com, they talked about how you really can't measure how much money companies are losing because of so many variables.

    Steam, the client most people use for PC gaming, has actually confirmed it's 7th year in a row (I think that's the correct amount of years) of having 100% increase of sales. If Piracy is affecting then, it's very small then to them. Look, people are going to steal if they want to steal; however, as I was saying about the amount of money being lost by Pirates. Companies that thrive off of the use of the Internet could possibly be in jeopardy because of this act. So to prevent thousands and possibly millions of dollars being lost, they are going to sacrifice the security of companies that could result in losses of over millions and quite possibly, billions of dollars.

    Let's say this Act stops pirating, this act will prevent a LOT of sites, possibly this one, and even the website my Guild for the MMORPG game I play, could potentially be forced to shut down. Not that we make money here, but we lose the freedom of speaking our own minds here. Also, if all of us are law biding "Internet Citizens" and someone comes to this site and decides to join and post wrongful material here (links to illegal downloads of software/movies/music/videos/etc.) this whole entire site could be removed just because one person came here and decided to be a total a$$****. It doesn't make it right, punish the people who are committing the acts, not everyone else with them.
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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    My big big question is : Why Wikipedia protesting if they dont have reclaims ! And they not violate copyrights of authors ) LoL, I think megaupload need to protest because they violate copyrights of authors with movies, music, documents etc etc ! But is ok because Wikipedia get involved with STOP SOPA AND PIPE ! But why THEY need our money when THEY make money :-??? Huh this capitalism kill me ........





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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    The whole thing was kind of brilliant. Because just in that one day, I tried going to Wikipedia multiple times because it's a regular part of my online viewing. It's just habitual to me that blacking it out was a great way to gain awareness over how unfortunate it would be if we didn't have it anymore because of SOPA.

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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    Actually Wikipedia had some instructions on how to bypass it if necessary and the mobile version worked fine. It's a misconception that they 100% blacked out. Regardless, they made a good point.

    Sadly, it seems that although SOPA is out, that's not the end of the threats.


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    RE: Wikipedia Blackout.

    Quote Originally Posted by WiseNinja
    Actually Wikipedia had some instructions on how to bypass it if necessary and the mobile version worked fine. It's a misconception that they 100% blacked out. Regardless, they made a good point.

    Sadly, it seems that although SOPA is out, that's not the end of the threats.

    Oh really? I wish I had known that. Oh well. LOL. They got there message across though and I haven't heard anything about SOPA recently.

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