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    Coronavirus: How should we be responding?

    Do you feel your government has been making the right calls, and if not, how could they improve on that? I have made my stance clear in other threads that I do not agree with my government's tardiness which has and will cost a lot of lives and the general population's overall indifferent opinion of the virus.

    This minister from Singapore has described our situation quite well:



    Our government and society needs a true wake-up call. Of course, I understand the detrimental economical implications, but at this point I would not be opposed to martial law. It won't happen because this is a nation of softies, but we all collectively took digs at China and their supposedly draconian measures. And hey, look, amazing—the joke's on us now! I would not be the first to praise China, but their comparatively lightning-fast response has made a hell of a difference to their outbreak and they're doing better enough to send crates full of face masks and test kits to the USA now. In such a small space of time, they absolutely made the right calls in spite of the distress it caused a lot of their citizens.

    If China hadn't taken those actions, can you imagine where they'd be right now? But at this time the second wave is occurring smack-bang in the middle of Europe. (Well, of course mostly veering off to West Europe.) The difference is that many of our nations aren't disciplined enough to take the necessary actions. Maybe Japan isn't doing incredibly but generally speaking Asia (excluding the Middle East) is displaying far more common sense.

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    You lost me at martial law. I don't ever want to see that happen. Places in the US, individual states are taking responsibility by closing places down. They are shutting down all public venues including restaurants in Ohio, other states are following suit. I don't want big government to take over for state government. That is a scary situation. It is different for smaller areas, I am sure but in the US... That would be bad.

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    I understand your perspective because containment is far more possible in the USA. Your government has been taking appropriate steps. Too little too late for Europe...

    Even though your individual states can make independent decisions, the United States has the advantage of being an overall centralised government. There is a complete lack of collaboration in Europe and every nation is acting on its own accord. With Europe's poor border control our only true hope was decisive action early into the outbreak.

    Edit: As a side note, France is already imposing martial law essentially, just not by that worrying name. It was announced in the last few hours that they're banning anybody from leaving home and announcing that they'll punish anyone who leaves. It's an unpopular opinion, I know, but I don't blame their government. They're doing worse than the UK. In some countries cases and deaths are doubling on average every three days. I also agree with their punishment of people who don't take care to avoid spreading the virus. I get that most people don't like staying inside, but going outside is often quite selfish right now which sounds kind of ironic. At any rate, they're introducing a €300 billion fund to pay all businesses that are closing down during the crisis. People will not pay for rent or utilities.

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    I saw some stuff on France, I guess people are still not listening either. A lot of them are going out in public when they were told not to and some of them have been showing signs of being sick. That is just moronic. Like the virus in and of itself is not a big deal, it is pretty weak but people need to use common sense to stop it from spreading and to keep it away from people it can actually cause physical harm to. My mother has leukemia so she is freaking out 24/7 but my husband and brother both have been doing store runs for her so she can stay home.

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    They should take the same approach Italy is currently taking. Non-compliants risk murder charges and over twenty years behind bars. Sounds harsh but at this point I don't really care as babbling about ethics (like many do on Twitter) can wait until another time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    They should take the same approach Italy is currently taking. Non-compliants risk murder charges and over twenty years behind bars. Sounds harsh but at this point I don't really care as babbling about ethics (like many do on Twitter) can wait until another time.
    It seems to be much worse in other places that is for sure. I find people needing to go to the stores more often because you go and you are limited on what you can get because stuff sells out fast or the stores only allow you to get a few items. It is both helpful and harmful when you think about it. They should be focusing on online ordering and shipping to keep people out of stores but every online shop I been on says they are either stopping online shopping to keep stores stocked or they are putting heavy limits on things.

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    How do you feel about the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games? I think it's pretty dumb that they're still planning to go ahead with it, but Japan seems to be too proud and stubborn to just let it go. Their deputy prime minister said that Japan's Olympic Games are cursed and that every forty years, the Olympics are doomed to fail. In 1940 it was World War II that had the event cancelled in Tokyo. In 1980 it didn't happen in Moscow because of some boycott. And now, obviously, coronavirus.

    Whenever I said that somewhere is a coronavirus hotbed, it was nothing in comparison to the Olympics. I can understand why Japan doesn't want to lose the chance but there's too much at stake here.

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    You absolute Australian idiots.

    ...that could be the biggest congregation of accessories to murder I've seen yet due to their complete lack of distancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    How do you feel about the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games? I think it's pretty dumb that they're still planning to go ahead with it, but Japan seems to be too proud and stubborn to just let it go. Their deputy prime minister said that Japan's Olympic Games are cursed and that every forty years, the Olympics are doomed to fail. In 1940 it was World War II that had the event cancelled in Tokyo. In 1980 it didn't happen in Moscow because of some boycott. And now, obviously, coronavirus.

    Whenever I said that somewhere is a coronavirus hotbed, it was nothing in comparison to the Olympics. I can understand why Japan doesn't want to lose the chance but there's too much at stake here.
    I feel like this is a bad idea. While the virus isn't a HUGE problem, it is still a problem that can become huge very easily. The whole point of telling people not to go anywhere they don't have to is to allow the virus to spread slower as to not put too much pressure on hospitals. There is no stopping it but we can ensure that people who need to be in the hospital get the treatment they need so the deaths aren't so high. We are meant to be preventing deaths, not the spread but most people don't get that. If people attend the Olympics, they will be coming from all around the world, some will be carrying the virus with them. It will end up speeding up the spread again. It just sounds like a bad idea to me.

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    The whole thing is a bit tough for me to really lay the smackdown on people for because I don't want people to spread the virus to seniors who may die from it BUT I also want people to have their freedom. If they aren't scared of catching it, then I'm not certain that means we should be able to force them to seclude themselves...but then again if they catch it and go out more...
    it's tough.

    I don't want to control anyone, freedom and risk taking should be allowed, but at how much expense to others?
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    It deals with a demon virus that transforms people into freaky looking fuckers

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