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    Is Die Hard a Christmas film?

    I say no.

    This is down to two key principles.
    The movie came out in July, not in during the late fall/winter holiday season.
    The movie could have had easily chose any other holiday to take place around and would have done fine.

    I believe it is a Christmas tradition for a lot of people but it doesn't make it a Christmas movie, not to me.

    What do you all think?

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    (Not sure whether to keep this in Blue Heaven. After all this is fucking serious business. Help me out, Zemekis.)

    The general consensus is probably that because shooting bad guys is not a very festive thing to do (in my opinion, killing good guys is) it shouldn't be regarded a Christmas film. That's probably a larger consideration than the release date of the film, especially considering that—as with many films—generally speaking most people who've seen the film probably didn't see it at the cinema for their first viewing. Let's remember that Die Hard is known by many as a timeless classic.

    The same goes for Home Alone which is seemingly universally accepted as a Christmas film. By the same "inappropriate" token, could one argue that devising potentially lethal traps for burglars a festive pastime? Or the general idea of a little boy being left alone to defend himself against a couple of creepy men? Just playing the devil's advocate here (I'm using some silly SJW logic to make my point so I don't think I have a strong one) but I think if some of the arguments against Die Hard being a Christmas film are applied to Home Alone it makes the whole matter sound rather stupid.

    tl;dr: This would mean Home Alone isn't a Christmas film either (with only its December release date supporting that) and a Christmas film could only be one with very apparent Christmas themes, like Father Christmas, etc.

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    Well, just because it doesn't release around Christmas time doesn't mean it can't qualify as one. It's a Wonderful Life, which is considered one of the quintessential Christmas movies, wasn't released until January well after the Christmas season. It's kind of funny that Die Hard gets this treatment since it was pretty common for action movies to take place at Christmas. First Blood and Lethal Weapon were set around Christmas time (I want to say Cobra was set during Christmas as well). I think in order to for a movie to qualify as a Christmas movie, it has to embody the Christmas spirit and I don't mean stuff like Santa Clause, presents and stuff like that but believing in good will towards men, being all about family and the like. Personally, I never considered Die Hard a Christmas movie, just one of the greatest action movies ever made. With that said, I can see how some people can interpret as such. The movie is John McClane trying to redeem himself to his estranged wife. Christmas stories can sometimes revolve around someone redeeming themselves with a Christmas Carol being a big example of this. There was also a hostage who was pregnant which, if you really want to go into artsty fartsy 1st year film student mode, you could interpret that as a reference to Mary giving birth to Christ on Christmas.

    Of course, having themes of redemption and family doesn't necessarily make it a Christmas movie. Honestly, I find that to be one of those things that's so suggestive to the point where you're never gonna come to a clear cut answer. One thing that I think we can all agree on is Die Hard kicks every amount of ass imaginable and is the perfect movie for all seasons.



    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to replay Die Hard Trilogy on the PS1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwind55 View Post
    ...I don't mean stuff like Santa Clause, presents and stuff like that but believing in good will...
    Bah! Humbug!

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    You keep that up and the Ghost of Christmas past, present and future are gonna come visit you and beat your ass until you get some Christmas spirit in you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    (Not sure whether to keep this in Blue Heaven. After all this is fucking serious business. Help me out, Zemekis.)
    Blue Heaven is for debates and that's exactly what this is! People take this topic seriously enough that it's fine here, lol.

    I've never seen it, so I don't have an opinion besides which forum it should be on. I'm fully prepared for the incel screeching that's coming my way, i yearn for it in fact.

    I was hoping to save this technique for a more worthy foe, but it looks like you made me use 10% of my power. Meet my OC: Gene StarZem.

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    The reason I brought it up is that people get really, REALLY upset over it. Like it seems to be more on the side of those who say it is a Christmas film than the other side.

    I know the plot and some of the scenes but I too have never watched the movie. I still feel like it is one of those things that falls under a tradition more so than an actual movie for the holiday.

    It is a bigger title that dwarfs what a typical Christmas movie is so it seems almost insulting to put it in that kind of category.

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    Yeah, it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Bah! Humbug!
    HUMBUG. BAH. FUCKITUPALLINTOHEEEEEELLLL.
    "It turned out that the ghost was just Mr. Finley, who ran the amusement park. The spooky part is that, as soon as the ghost appeared, the teenagers' dog began to speak! And it spoke in a tortured parody of human speech: 'relp me, Raggy,' it would say. 'I am an abomination and rould re rilled. Rill re, Raggy.'"

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    I'd say it is, and the sequel had even more to do with Christmas.

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