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    The focus on straws being a problem baffles me

    You know how people are trying to get rid of straws, saying their impact is HUGE on the environment?

    Quite a number of them out there are biodegradable and the easy fix for the plastic ones is just to include them in recycled goods. Littering makes them a problem but there is something people litter FAR more than straws...

    Cigarette butts. I see these all over the place, especially in city areas. I have seen them in lakes, ponds, you name it. Not only are they laced with chemicals but they can harm wildlife far more than straws.

    Am I the only one who thinks the war on straws is just stupid? I am not saying to go all willy nilly and keep littering them but in comparison to other things, they are minor.

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    I've been thinking the same thing recently. I think it's just a ploy to score political brownie points in the absence of doing anything legitimately meaningful. About 1-2 years ago, I heard some story where people were crying about how plastic straws were harming tortoises, and ever since then there's been this senseless uproar about it. I have no problem believing that trash of any kind can impact wildlife, but really now... plastic straws? As you said, there are much, much worse things to worry about. Forget the straws, think about how much waste is generated just from fast food in general. Think about what one single meal at a fast food restaurant generates: hamburger wrappers, French fry containers, a cup with a plastic lid, bags, napkins, condiment packets, etc. To put this in perspective, McDonald's sells almost 80 hamburgers EVERY SECOND of the day... and that's just one fast food chain. To say we are focusing our attention on the wrong problem is a severe understatement.

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    You hit the nail on the head, Stardood. Replacing plastic straws is a tangible change that makes companies look like they care about the environment. And while they are better for the environment (they are more biodegradable), they are not 100% recyclable/biodegradable, and you will likely need more than one when you're out somewhere because they have no durability. You are literally putting paper in a liquid.
    But, hey, it's a tangible change, so people can go to places with paper straws, and be happy because they think they're Captain Planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudohippie View Post
    But, hey, it's a tangible change, so people can go to places with paper straws, and be happy because they think they're Captain Planet.
    Bingo.

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    I thought the whole straw thing was pretty cringe myself, but upon going to Wegman's and using a paper straw....they are surprisingly durable. They last well over 24 hours submerged in liquid, they're more akin to a water-resistant cardboard than paper. The reason I like them is that they're wider than your traditional plastic straw, not counting boba straws which are the best of both worlds.

    Paper staws are wider so I can get that extra succ, and I need to stay well-hydrated for all the smoking and littering I'm gonna do to offset this hippie behavior.
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    I had the opposite experience, actually. I went to Dollywood with my parents for a vacation last month, got lunch there, and they had paper straws. It started going limp *giggady* after just a few minutes. It didn't disintegrate, but it was much less effective after just a few minutes.

    I will say, I looked it up after reading the first few posts to do a bit of research, and the first link on Google made me want laugh so hard. It was a pro paper straw page from plasticstrawssuc dot com or something equally as reputable, and the first positive the person mentioned was the paper straws look cuter because you can make nice designs.
    Not their impact on the environment. Nope. How cute they are. -_-. And here I thought the Extinction Protests were idiotic.
    I didn't click the article to read that. It was on the preview. I'm sure as Hell not giving something that moronic revenue by clicking it.

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    I had paper straws too at McDonald's which soon started feeling slimy and upon finishing my Coke had became a nasty mush. Bring back the plastic straws, asshats. Fortunately I only go to McDonald's once every one or two years, but if I went regularly I'd be pissed. Don't get me started on plastic bag bans...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDood64 View Post
    My man, greetings from NJ.
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    Nervous glances back at you from PA, pal.

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
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    Nervous glances back at you from PA, pal.

    lol
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