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    Is Hollywood losing it's appeal?

    I remember growing up and other kids saying they wanted to be a famous actor, or singer, or comedian... Things all dealing with fame and Hollywood. Kid and adults alike were obsessed with famous people and idolized those who walked that "red carpet" like they were royalty or something. These days it seems kids are more interested in being a big-time YouTuber or Twitch streamer, many are even saying they want to have their own podcast. It seems like the direction has shifted since kids/teens and young adults see they can get the money and fame without signing their soul over to Hollywood. You can even see this in the porn industry... Men and women don't need that side of "Holly-wood" (lol) either.

    I am wondering about this now. It would seem like Hollywood in general is not only losing its appeal to the younger generation but losing its power over them. I was never big into bands, actors, or anything of the sort. I could care what famous people are up to but when something happens to Pewdiepie (as an example) I find myself complaining about it and talking about it with others. Something shifted over the last 10 years I think.

    Do you think Hollywood is losing its edge and more and more people are caring less about those kinds of people?

    EDIT: I messed up the title, it is meant to be "its" and not "it's" lol. I likely have other typos. Getting used to new glasses at the moment.
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    Hollywood isn't cool anymore. At the turn of the 20th century, when film first emerged as a new medium of entertainment, Hollywood became associated with glitz and glamour. After the 1960s and '70s, when film broke away from the Hollywood system and its self-imposed censorship codes, many newer filmmakers took on more taboo themes and subjects, causing moviegoers to look on films from the Golden Age of Hollywood as an outdated, saccharine relic.

    Then Hollywood scandals began revealing themselves in the 80s and 90s, the decades of excess. The private lives of celebrities became the subject of gossip columns and tabloids, with messy divorces and stories of wild drug use becoming national news, and becoming de rigueur as a result. One reason the internet became what it became was the rejection by internet users of this mainstream Hollywood nonsense. To produce a single unique article on the internet--be it a short film, animation, podcast, even a piece of fanfiction or a YouTube Poop--was better than anything Hollywood and the cable networks were pushing out.

    Then more scandals came out about high-profile celebrities and producers (Weinstein, Spacey, etc). Hollywood finally lost what little attraction it was clinging to. I expect it to die off in the next few decades if it doesn't change (not that I think it will).
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    A lot of people have been talking about the 90s being the only reason it is still a thing today. It was thanks to all that trashy gossip and the push of reality TV in the late 90s and early 00s.

    I still see people obsessed with fame and famous people but the appeal of Hollywood and the California dream seem to be fizzling out. Why would someone want to work that hard when they can just become the next Pewdiepie? Not to say he didn't work hard, he really did but in their minds. that is easier and less effort is involved. I see celebrities on YouTube now with YouTube channels trying to stay relevant and it is kind of cringy.

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    Hollywood never had appeal to me, but even as a movie outsider I can see that movies have lost their soul so to speak. When i see things filmed in the 80's or 90's it feels like there was some life to it. A sense of integrity or motivation behind the production that's hard to put into words. They feel more sincere or earnest? The few modern movies I do see are so cookie-cutter that you'd think an A.I. created them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    Hollywood never had appeal to me, but even as a movie outsider I can see that movies have lost their soul so to speak. When i see things filmed in the 80's or 90's it feels like there was some life to it. A sense of integrity or motivation behind the production that's hard to put into words. They feel more sincere or earnest? The few modern movies I do see are so cookie-cutter that you'd think an A.I. created them.
    I get that sense too. Like it is more about the money than the message or impacting people's lives. I have seen plenty of great movies in the 90s but seldom find any worth watching today. I think you are better off watch series and even then, a lot of them are becoming terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KorinKitty View Post
    I get that sense too. Like it is more about the money than the message or impacting people's lives. I have seen plenty of great movies in the 90s but seldom find any worth watching today. I think you are better off watch series and even then, a lot of them are becoming terrible.
    And this is why I prefer to spend my time on narrative-driven video games instead. You still get a pre-made experience in a lot of cases (less so with Western RPGs) but there is a lot less of the Hollywood influence and repetition. Some games I enjoy certainly have a message behind them but I rarely feel that the games I enjoy come across as rehashes or preachy.

    The #1 reason I don't watch Hollywood stuff or tv series is shaky-cam. I don't know if that's the real name for it, but that's what I call it.

    In TV series it looks like this:



    Why the hell is the camera moving around constantly? It's so distracting. I suspect that it's a calculated move to make the show feel more engaging and most people never even notice it. When my Dad & sister were watching The Office and I pointed it out to them, it took a minute of me explaining what I was talking about before they noticed it.

    From my cursory youtube/google searches for "shaky cam" i see that it's already a known phrase but it refers more to action scenes in movies. Around ~16 years ago (I remember the specific movie that triggered me was called King Arthur from 2004) I realized that action scenes in movies had been reduced to a bunch of really quick cuts where I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. If you watch from about 1:35 onwards in this video you'll see what I mean. What's with all the cuts where I can just see 3/4 of a dude's head? Or they jump from 2 guys fighting to a different set of guys then back to the first group? I can't keep track of who's dying or anyone's positioning. This is common these days in superhero movie action sequences or action movies in general, this is just the first example I became aware of.

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    I started watching a series recently, I can't remember what it is called. Only watched the first episode but they do that and it annoys me to no end which is likely why I haven't bothered watching another episode yet. I never watched the Office either. That was partly because of the camera but mostly because it is just cringe humor which I am not a fan of.

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    The age of internet and numerous biographies of classic stars have proven that Hollywood was rotten to the core from the get-go. In my opinion, it is losing its appeal at a rapid pace, but it is still sustained by groups of moviegoers who seek blockbuster type of entertainment. However, this does not change the fact that modern films are progressively soulless.

    Quick comparison: The Last Samurai from 2003 is not a breathtaking motion picture, but it is very watchable. On the other hand, Mulan from 2020 is just an incoherent cashgrab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebisuno92 View Post
    The age of internet and numerous biographies of classic stars have proven that Hollywood was rotten to the core from the get-go. In my opinion, it is losing its appeal at a rapid pace, but it is still sustained by groups of moviegoers who seek blockbuster type of entertainment. However, this does not change the fact that modern films are progressively soulless.

    Quick comparison: The Last Samurai from 2003 is not a breathtaking motion picture, but it is very watchable. On the other hand, Mulan from 2020 is just an incoherent cashgrab.
    I was never a big Disney fan but always had a soft spot for a few of the movies, Mulan being one of them. I have not watched any of their live-action remakes and will not do so because they can't top the originals, no matter how hard they try. The actress who played Mulan always denounced Hong Kong so she can go away. I never want to see her in a movie or show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KorinKitty View Post
    I was never a big Disney fan but always had a soft spot for a few of the movies, Mulan being one of them. I have not watched any of their live-action remakes and will not do so because they can't top the originals, no matter how hard they try. The actress who played Mulan always denounced Hong Kong so she can go away. I never want to see her in a movie or show.
    To top it all, the actress who played Mulan can't act to save her life. She is extremely bland whenever she appears on screen.
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