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    Illuminati - Fact or Fiction?

    I thought we can lighten the mood... (get it? lol I'm sorry!) by talking about something a bit more out there in this section. I am not sure if there was a thread made for this or not, my apologies if there was.

    Anyways, what are your thoughts on the Illuminati?

    Does this secret group exist or is it some out there story we allow ourselves to believe?

    I for one believe it is real to a certain degree. I feel there is a "super-government" that pulls the strings of many governments around the world. Where there is human nature there is greed and the lust for power and for those two reasons, I believe something like this can be real.

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    Well at one point the illuminati did 100% factually exist. It was a secret organization from the 1770's that was uncovered in Germany long, long ago. Whether that organization and today's iteration of the Illuminati are even remotely similar is the real question I think. It is rather satisfying to know that yes, it is areal and they at least did exist in the past. Moving forward with some sense of certainty like that makes me feel a bit less crazy looking into it.

    In my opinion, they do exist today but not in the way we think. They're probably far less connected than we imagine. People like to think that these 20 dudes in suits all meet in an underground bunker or something and make decisions about how to mind control people and how to keep black people in ghettos. I think of it more like a level of influence certain individuals have due to their fortunes. There are a good number of people out there who can affect the economy with their moves alone like Warren Bufet, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, George Soros and some Saudi princes. Sure, maybe they got to that position because they're a group of inter-connected reptile people and the game was rigged from the start, but I find it a lot easier to believe that they just drew some very lucky cards and now even their mundane actions carry a lot of weight. It's fully possible that they get together once in a while, and sure maybe there are so illegal monopolies/collusion but I don't think it's nearly as organized as we might think it is.

    I can barely manage taking care of my house, wife and dog & work with enough free time leftover to check in with roughly 10 people on an anime forum. I can't 100% buy into the belief that Bill Gates comes home from a day as the head of Microsoft and then has the energy to go into his evil bunker to meet with the other lizardmen about how to screw over some poor people, although that would be funny as hell. All things considered, I bet that there is a certain personality type or group of personality types that tend to lead to success in business. Because we most often see these types of people become successful, that's why they have some common beliefs and political leanings and it starts to look like they're in cahoots when they're really just similar from birth. Once they're super rich and have nothing to worry about they tend to get rather liberal-leaning and supporting programs and such that make it look like they're trying to steer the course of entire countries (and maybe they are) but I doubt it's as sophisticated as we give them credit for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    Well at one point the illuminati did 100% factually exist. It was a secret organization from the 1770's that was uncovered in Germany long, long ago. Whether that organization and today's iteration of the Illuminati are even remotely similar is the real question I think.
    I read about that. Apparently they were just an organisation of "freethinkers" who had a problem with religion, forms of oppression, yada yada. Not elites from a powerful organisation.

    Anyways, I don't believe anything of this sort. When you get the usual suspects such as David Icke and Alex Jones clowning around all the time and their NPC lemming followers keep regurgitating the same shit (who do a pretty good job of not shutting the fuck up about it)... it becomes hard to take any of it seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Anyways, I don't believe anything of this sort. When you get the usual suspects such as David Icke and Alex Jones clowning around all the time and their NPC lemming followers keep regurgitating the same shit (who do a pretty good job of not shutting the fuck up about it)... it becomes hard to take any of it seriously.
    That's what the illuminati wants! Alex Jones is their puppet to make people who question them look stupid!
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    Alex Jones is a fear monger. He uses this kind of stuff to make sales, nothing more.

    Talking about the group from the 1700s, was this a branch of the Templar? I remember reading about them and they too considered themselves "free thinkers".

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