Thread: Will more riots break out?

If you haven't been following it, the George Floyd trial is underway and some changes have already occurred.

The girlfriend of George has confirmed they both have a dealer for their drugs and she didn't like the guy. They had been meeting with him the day of the incident and he can be seen in the camera of the shop George was in when he was using the fake $20 bill. It is not being suspected that he had bought some pills off his dealer and had them on himself and in an effort to hide them, took them all when he saw the cops approaching. He was salivated pretty badly and having a bad reaction by the time they were walking him to the cop car. What this all means is that the dealer in question can be charged with George's death, not the police officer if it is proven without a shadow of a doubt, this was an accidental overdose, which I believe is the case. As for the cop being charged, he was doing what he was taught by the police force and that knee-to-the-neck hold is common in police forces and military around the world. I haven't found any instance where it has killed someone. I could be wrong here and overlooking something so please if you know of something like this, share it.

I feel like no matter what happens, people are going to riot and go nuts, at least in Portland. I can't say for other areas.

I've been following this for a while today. It was actually a whole seven months ago when that bodycam video was first shown by the press, specifically the Daily Mail. They put it on YouTube who didn't remove it, but they kept deleting views to stop it from trending. It's the one officially made available today but recorded with a camera from a screen. I don't think it was as long, but it still showed him saying he couldn't breathe while inside the car and it was pretty obvious he was high as a kite.

In my opinion it was the drugs that ultimately killed him and I think a lot of people realised that several months back. YouTube was trying to hide the truth. It's possible the officer may be charged with manslaughter though.

If he gets anything less than a very harsh sentence the rioters will get their excuse to do what they do best.

Originally Posted by Mantis

I've been following this for a while today. It was actually a whole seven months ago when that bodycam video was first shown by the press, specifically the Daily Mail. They put it on YouTube who didn't remove it, but they kept deleting views to stop it from trending. It's the one officially made available today but recorded with a camera from a screen. I don't think it was as long, but it still showed him saying he couldn't breathe while inside the car and it was pretty obvious he was high as a kite.

In my opinion it was the drugs that ultimately killed him and I think a lot of people realised that several months back. YouTube was trying to hide the truth. It's possible the officer may be charged with manslaughter though.

If he gets anything less than a very harsh sentence the rioters will get their excuse to do what they do best.

At this point, I don't think they will care. I mean they could give the man the death penalty and it won't be enough. They keep saying "no justice, no peace" as a public threat to safety. If I was a business owner in any of these cities where this crap broke out, I would close shop and move somewhere else. I am so thankful I don't live in a city.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think regardless of the outcome of the court case there will be a manufactured outrage. If he gets a custodial sentence then people and woke media will complain that the sentence isn't harsh enough, if he walks then there will be just as much of an outrage. I just think that it's ridiculous that they've turned a lowlife into a martyr. I don't think the cop intentionally killed him but something about this whole thing seems off.

What I find ironic about this is that during the capital riots when Ashli Babbitt was shot by a police officer and the media immediately dug up any dirt on her they could and there was a concern that she'll become a martyr for right-wingers. The cop who shot her got away with it too.

Originally Posted by KorinKitty

If you haven't been following it, the George Floyd trial is underway and some changes have already occurred.

The girlfriend of George has confirmed they both have a dealer for their drugs and she didn't like the guy. They had been meeting with him the day of the incident and he can be seen in the camera of the shop George was in when he was using the fake $20 bill. It is not being suspected that he had bought some pills off his dealer and had them on himself and in an effort to hide them, took them all when he saw the cops approaching. He was salivated pretty badly and having a bad reaction by the time they were walking him to the cop car. What this all means is that the dealer in question can be charged with George's death, not the police officer if it is proven without a shadow of a doubt, this was an accidental overdose, which I believe is the case. As for the cop being charged, he was doing what he was taught by the police force and that knee-to-the-neck hold is common in police forces and military around the world. I haven't found any instance where it has killed someone. I could be wrong here and overlooking something so please if you know of something like this, share it.

I feel like no matter what happens, people are going to riot and go nuts, at least in Portland. I can't say for other areas.

Yes.

At this time (Wednesday April 7, 2021 @ 10:25pm pdt), the derek Chauvin trial for murder appears to be imploding.

At this point, it's doesn't if he wins or loses. The angry black community will do whatever it is they feel they can get away with.

So if Derek walks, riots.

If Derek is sentenced, riots.

Should Derek be found not guilty, he needs to sue:

Media
State
And Police Department

Derek will never work a job again.

Should Derek be convicted and imprisoned, he won't live more then 5 years.

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I am convinced the way the reporting on the trial is being handled, knowing the people who will be outraged won't actually watch the trial but read up on news about it, they are making it seem like the cop is going down... This in turn will result in a wave of "no justice no peace" and rioting because they won't understand why he got off without punishment. Following the trial, Chauvin is not losing right now and if anything, Floyd is being made to look worse. The dude overdosed and they have no proof of Chauvin having the intent to hurt him in any way. If anything, he used less force than he should of. Had he been following the books, he should have tasered Floyd and threw him in the back of the cop car but he didn't. None of them wanted to hurt him and they felt bad for him because he was clearly an addict who was not looking to hurt anyone.

At this point, I always assume that there will be more riots. Regardless of outcome, some group will be angry enough (or funded enough, if you believe the theories/evidence out there) to riot. The riots wouldn't be so bad if the police would shut them down properly, but we are in an era with very obvious selective enforcement. The ongoing riots since last Summer are called "protests". The far less destructive/violent stuff in D.C. was an "insurrection" or "terrorist act" and many have been arrested & put on no-fly lists.

I could give a better analysis of whether more riots would occur if the situation was entirely organic, but it isn't. It's my belief that there are a lot of larger actors at play here than an upset citizenry which makes the future & motivations difficult to pinpoint.

Originally Posted by Zemekis

At this point, I always assume that there will be more riots. Regardless of outcome, some group will be angry enough (or funded enough, if you believe the theories/evidence out there) to riot. The riots wouldn't be so bad if the police would shut them down properly, but we are in an era with very obvious selective enforcement. The ongoing riots since last Summer are called "protests". The far less destructive/violent stuff in D.C. was an "insurrection" or "terrorist act" and many have been arrested & put on no-fly lists.

I could give a better analysis of whether more riots would occur if the situation was entirely organic, but it isn't. It's my belief that there are a lot of larger actors at play here than an upset citizenry which makes the future & motivations difficult to pinpoint.

I know to a lot of people it sounds stupid, but I have seen more than enough evidence to convince me a lot of these riots were funded at least in the beginning. I have seen funding being done for protests on craigslist locally. People paying $50 an hour to hold a sign somewhere and say chants. So things being funded on this level, I would believe it.

I don't remember these issues happening much at all growing up. It just seems strange how the cops are being targeted at the same time riots are popping up all over the place... as if the cops needed to be put in a state of fear to do anything about it to it could happen. I just don't trust people these days. I don't trust politicians and I don't trust the media.

Yeah. This trial looks interesting. I feel that the evidence can be used to go either way at this point.

But I do not think that Chauvin is guilty for murder nor manslaughter.

I need to know the following:

How long does fentyal take to metabolize in the human body?

I imagine fentyal is fast acting in the human body and for the cops to arrive until Floyd was in the ambulance we are talking 20 mins?

If fentyal can metabolize in the body shorter then that 20mins, then I am leaning on the drug OD (overdose).

Yet, the coroner report already states he had (in the teens) of measurable amounts of fentyal in his blood... so I suppose Floyd was already ODing when the cops arrived.

BUT

Back to your question: riots?

Yes. Riots will occur.

Strap up and stay safe. Relocate to a safer area if you have the means. Or ensure you have multiple escape routes to safe alternative locations.

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Several days back I watched it live for a few hours. There was some sort of expert explaining the mistakes Derek Chauvin made during the chokehold, in quite remarkable detail. It's a really tricky case. I agree with manslaughter not being the case if the drugs are proven to be the leading factor in George's death.

He was off his head and making it really difficult for the officers. With all the yelling and thrashing, I'd expect some difficulty restraining him with precision, especially quite late at night.

It does seem to me that the police and others associated with the case are throwing Derek under the bus and trying to wash their hands of this. As others have said, either way there will be riots so I hope the Americans amongst us are able to stay safe.