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    Is violence really avoidable?

    Often it is recommended to use violence as a last resort and to avoid it at all costs, especially in environments like the workplace and school for obvious reasons. However, there are certain situations and people in particular where it seems difficult to avoid getting a bit physical to resolve the issue.

    Bullying comes to mind, yeah you shouldn't kill someone for making fun of you but if you're able to give them a good reality check to show them you're not scared, is it really a bad thing? Some will say it will provoke more violence, others will say, it'll teach them a lesson and so on.

    Personally I think the outcome varies depending on the situation and the individual you're dealing with. I've had some people mess with me who only stopped after they realized I wasn't going to take their crap anymore. On other occasions, I was able to resolve some issues without getting as aggressive so it can work, just not always IMO.

    I think it's also a lot more controversial when you're older as when you're a kid or a teen, you can get into a fight and people will brush it off as just a kid thing but as an adult, you have to act with more caution as prison time could occur if you don't use due diligence as well. Also, by violence I'm not just referring to extreme cases of it, i.e beating someone up but lighter stuff such as maybe pushing someone back etc.

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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    A very interesting topic of discussion, indeed. We should consider the incidents bullying has caused in the past. In addition to long-lasting trauma, in the most extreme of cases, we all know about the school massacres that have occurred over the past couple of decades. They themselves have often been the subject of much debate. Virginia Tech, for instance. The kid obviously wasn't right in the head, but he was also treated like shit and wasn't given a proper amount of help. A lot of innocent people were killed who didn't harm the kid at all, but nevertheless, whilst what he did was a horrible act of violence, I don't think he can be blamed 100% for the massacre. However, that's at the extreme deep end of the spectrum...

    Bullying sure ain't an easy thing to deal with, but it seems violence is often the only way, other than being a doormat and letting it happen; something I did for a few years until I unleashed my nerd rage and left one bully crying his eyes out. XD I think often, the root of the problem is that bullies are in groups and they always egg each other on to continue hurting defenceless kids. Getting teachers involved will usually only result in even more bullying towards a student since often the bullies will catch wind of this (obviously so if they're told off), and the student will be called a snitch, a grass, etc. Whilst I don't condone killing of course, giving the bullies a taste of their own medicine is sure as hell satisfying, and they deserve it. Unfortunately, a lot of kids just don't have the courage to do that.

    As for adults, yeah, I agree. It sounds worse in the US where more often, lawsuits occur for really trivial matters. Though fortunately much less frequently, bullying does indeed happen in the workplace. It's just too bad getting your own back might give the bully the last laugh. I'm not sure if I'd call it more controversial, though. It's apples and oranges really. One guy may be scarred from the bullying he endured during his school years. Another may have managed to brush it off as a kid, but has got in trouble for getting into fights with colleagues. I'd certainly say bullying is overlooked in the workplace, but at the same time, too many teachers aren't qualified to handle bullies either. Often, even teachers are victims of bullying from students. Unfortunately, due to modern political correctness, I doubt we'll see bullies given an ideal punishment in the future.
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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    I believe that human nature generally allows some forms of violence to occur, whether it be minor or major.

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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    To put it short, nobody is above an ass whooping.

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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

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    Um, I think that in most instances violence can be avoided, but there are times that you MUST do something. What ever it may be:bullying, taunting or defending yourself or someone. I think violence would be justifiable here, but fighting someone over trivial matters is pointless. I guess sometimes you have to ''Be the bigger man.'' and put-up with it, but sometimes you have to beat someone's ass.
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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    Violence is avoidable but not always wrong.
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    This was a good idea Mantis.

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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    The issue with playing hero is not knowing the background behind a particular situation though as imagine this scenario:

    Person A is bullying person B. Person B retaliates and starts to kick person A's ass. Person A has tormented person B a lot and is an awful individual.

    You come along and don't really know person A or B but see A getting their ass kicked and you assume them to be the victim, you then step in and attempt to take down person B thinking they're the ones acting unjustly.

    This is something to remember as although I have stepped in before, I've only done so when I saw the dispute arise and was sure that the victim was truly the victim and at times, even with the above scenario after person A gets their ass kicked enough, it may be wise to help stop the fight before person B gets out of hand which can happen as at that point, they may well be crossing the line between a simple F-off and causing some serious damage.

    This is why realistically it would be dangerous for everyone to carry a weapon and play vigilante as you wouldn't know who the real victim is when two people have a gun pointed at each other.

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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    It's not completely avoidable.

    In some situations, there's simply no other way of dealing with the problem.
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    RE: Is violence really avoidable?

    And what exactly could be done to completely eliminate violence? Punishments can be made more extreme, but then you may be using violence to prevent future violence. Is that really right and can that be justified?

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