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    So it turns out, the FCC sued Google/YouTube for a cookie violation that involved tracking the internet history of children and minors. Now they will be changing things and it will take place in January 2020.

    The changes that are rumored to be happening involve "child-friendly content" or content made for kids. Both will supposedly no longer be able to have ad placement, thus anyone who has a large child fanbase like Pokemon YouTubers or Minecraft YouTubers will not be able to earn income through the ads.

    There is more to it then just this. Feel free to google all the other details.

    What do you think will come of this?

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    At the very least there should be a lengthy discussion f what constitutes a child-friendly channel/video. Sure, Pokemon is targeted at kids, but if the people speaking in the video are cussing up a storm, playing adult-oriented romhacks, etc. then is it still a child-targeted video/channel? Is the video topic or delivery more important? When I get together with friends to play the competitive Kirby 64 minigames that is ANYTHING but child-friendly. Is it based off the percentage of your viewer/subscriber base who put an age under 18 in their YouTube profile during sign-up? I assume Google's lawyers will be working around the clock until January to find a loophole through which they can continue to monetize videos aimed at very young children at least. Those Spiderman/Elsa videos are/were the largest earners on the platform for years.

    I'm fine with those types of videos dying off or being removed because I don't watch them, but de-monetizing creators of any kind is wrong in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    At the very least there should be a lengthy discussion f what constitutes a child-friendly channel/video. Sure, Pokemon is targeted at kids, but if the people speaking in the video are cussing up a storm, playing adult-oriented romhacks, etc. then is it still a child-targeted video/channel? Is the video topic or delivery more important? When I get together with friends to play the competitive Kirby 64 minigames that is ANYTHING but child-friendly. Is it based off the percentage of your viewer/subscriber base who put an age under 18 in their YouTube profile during sign-up? I assume Google's lawyers will be working around the clock until January to find a loophole through which they can continue to monetize videos aimed at very young children at least. Those Spiderman/Elsa videos are/were the largest earners on the platform for years.

    I'm fine with those types of videos dying off or being removed because I don't watch them, but de-monetizing creators of any kind is wrong in my opinion.
    I don't understand why they don't just have warnings at the start of the videos like TV programs do. Make it so there is a warning and rating for the video and make a visible tag on the video itself that shows the rating. If kids still get this past their parents, maybe it is indeed a parental issue, not a YouTube issue.

    When my younger cousins were like 8 and 9, they would watch all kinds of videos on YouTube. Bad ones even. Got their father to buy them GTA as well. Point being, this wasn't at fault of YouTube or the gaming industry, but rather the parents.

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    Yep. They keep cracking down more and more on responsible adults' freedom without ever pointing the finger at who's responsible in these cases involving kids. That's most likely because there are very few parents around who can take any criticism about their parenting style. Just imagine if youtube saud parents should be paying more attention to what their kids are watching. There would be a line of single mothers with "world's Coolest Mom" tshirts 100 miles long outside YT headquarters wanting to speak to a manager. You know the exact kind of lady I'm talking about. 38, holding kids from several different dads on her lap in her Tinder profile photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    Yep. They keep cracking down more and more on responsible adults' freedom without ever pointing the finger at who's responsible in these cases involving kids. That's most likely because there are very few parents around who can take any criticism about their parenting style. Just imagine if youtube saud parents should be paying more attention to what their kids are watching. There would be a line of single mothers with "world's Coolest Mom" tshirts 100 miles long outside YT headquarters wanting to speak to a manager. You know the exact kind of lady I'm talking about. 38, holding kids from several different dads on her lap in her Tinder profile photo.
    I pictured that and it made me laugh. I see so many memes about this kind of stuff. Some involved "Karen". lol

    That is sad though. If you can't criticize parenting or parents when they are doing a crappy job, how will they ever learn from it? When their kid grows up and ends up on drugs? I may not like the way YouTube handles things but a lot of it is because of these over-sensitive wack jobs that cry about everything. This kind of stuff was not happening all the time with everything just like 10 years ago.

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    They sure as fuck won't do anything to channels like the Paul brothers, Ricegum, or any other the other pretentious bastard that have a mostly child audience, but do abhorrent things, like encourage children to gamble or take videos of dead bodies.
    Hell, there's a YouTube movie with Logan Paul that MOCKS him filming a dead body. Made, promoted, and shown on youtube.

    I am glad that YouTube actually decided against their restrictions on Verification badges. I guess enough youtubers, big and small condemned that action.

    But, yeah. Parents see YouTube as a free baby sitter for their kids, and trust "YouTube kids" to be all kid friendly, because fuck responsibility. That takes effort.
    I may have posted this here before, but there was a BBC report about YouTube Kids some time ago, and it showed how shockingly pathetic and lazy parents can be. I'm going to link Caddicarus's response video to it, because I refuse to give the actual article any retention time.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVja3Py2HGY

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudohippie View Post
    They sure as fuck won't do anything to channels like the Paul brothers, Ricegum, or any other the other pretentious bastard that have a mostly child audience, but do abhorrent things, like encourage children to gamble or take videos of dead bodies.
    Hell, there's a YouTube movie with Logan Paul that MOCKS him filming a dead body. Made, promoted, and shown on youtube.

    I am glad that YouTube actually decided against their restrictions on Verification badges. I guess enough youtubers, big and small condemned that action.

    But, yeah. Parents see YouTube as a free baby sitter for their kids, and trust "YouTube kids" to be all kid friendly, because fuck responsibility. That takes effort.
    I may have posted this here before, but there was a BBC report about YouTube Kids some time ago, and it showed how shockingly pathetic and lazy parents can be. I'm going to link Caddicarus's response video to it, because I refuse to give the actual article any retention time.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVja3Py2HGY
    A lot of issues dealing with kids today comes down to bad parenting. Be it lazy or unavoidable (needing to work a lot), people seem to be at the cost end of children that aren't even their responsibility.

    They are trying to push that law to ban flavored e-liquids because 5 stupid kids bought junk off the street and died from it. So you want to take away something that has helped millions of people quit around the world and turn their lives around over 5 stupid kids who have parents that clearly don't pay attention to them enough?

    Things like this make me mad. I get it, parenting is not easy but you can make it easier for yourself by being safe with who you sleep with, waiting until you are married to have children, and being on the same page as your spouse when it comes to raising kids. No one ever got it 100% right but I feel like today's society revolves around pretending to care about children when really they are just using them as some political weapon.

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    Very well said. To be honest, though, I've had a few drinks tonight and started reading your response at the bottom paragraph and mistakenly thought I had responded to someone and hit post without realizing it. To be perfectly clear, that was terrifying, because I am still very new to saying things to the internet. I've been on reddit for over 6 years now and I'm still sitting at just 71 karma because I flat out refuse to engage with the (very scary) public. I don't even post to my own facebook, and that's just family and friends, lol.

    But I digress.... I agree. When I see these silly trending news articles about people in the single digits having died from whatever, it makes me seriously worry about the target audience of those publications. There are so many people in the world, and anything of real significance will affect an area in either much larger numbers or much higher concentrated numbers in a particular area. The failure to take more substantial evidence and information into consideration when looking at issues is absolutely ridiculous. Though, I'm perfectly aware almost every story published by a 'news station' or 'journalist' is relying more heavily on sensationalism than actual research, it is just depressing to see that crap filling the headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterryan89 View Post
    Very well said. To be honest, though, I've had a few drinks tonight and started reading your response at the bottom paragraph and mistakenly thought I had responded to someone and hit post without realizing it. To be perfectly clear, that was terrifying, because I am still very new to saying things to the internet. I've been on reddit for over 6 years now and I'm still sitting at just 71 karma because I flat out refuse to engage with the (very scary) public. I don't even post to my own facebook, and that's just family and friends, lol.

    But I digress.... I agree. When I see these silly trending news articles about people in the single digits having died from whatever, it makes me seriously worry about the target audience of those publications. There are so many people in the world, and anything of real significance will affect an area in either much larger numbers or much higher concentrated numbers in a particular area. The failure to take more substantial evidence and information into consideration when looking at issues is absolutely ridiculous. Though, I'm perfectly aware almost every story published by a 'news station' or 'journalist' is relying more heavily on sensationalism than actual research, it is just depressing to see that crap filling the headlines.
    I would say it is a lot scarier today to voice your opinion online then it was 6 years ago. Things have gotten bad on social platforms like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.

    I stick to a handful of forums like this one where I know people won't attack each other for disagreeing.

    Something I find interesting with these headlines and news stories is that this stuff has always been happening. They did it with a lot of things, most people just didn't pay attention, or they didn't pay enough attention to realize what they were doing.

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