• Do you think incarceration really changes people for the better?
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    Do you think incarceration really changes people for the better?

    Over time, locking people up has been seen as a way of reforming them, in a hope to transform them into model citizens. Most of the time, when convicts are released, they either go back to crime, or end up doing a worse evil than the one that got them into jail the first time. Gang tattoos and cursing are the most common outcome associated with jail.

    True, there are actually some ex-cons that end up reforming, but live their lives haunted by the memories of being behind bars. Most end up losing it and commuting another crime or just being dragged to psychiatric hospitals. In my opinion, jail is not an effective tool, what say you?

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    I have seen people do minor crimes, face time, and come out only to go back for something even worse. In my observations, prison not only contains criminals, it creates them. The problem is, if someone robs a bank, shoots someone, murders someone, deals drugs, etc. what other option is there then to lock them up? A lot of tax dollars fund these prisons and while this is not the best option, anything else would be either more expensive or create a worse outcome for people.

    I think it is worth having more psychiatric help for inmates as well as giving them more privacy from other inmates. Keep cameras in the "cell" but allow them to have a wall or something. I know some prisons do but many don't.

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    It's true that there's no better option but we know that jail time is not doing anything to help. Ignoring that fact and going on with life as usual won't change anything. Inmates go through a lot in prison. Actually, when they get out, the suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieranlewix View Post
    It's true that there's no better option but we know that jail time is not doing anything to help. Ignoring that fact and going on with life as usual won't change anything. Inmates go through a lot in prison. Actually, when they get out, the suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
    I can't remember what it was called but years ago I watched a documentary about this. Most people who come out from serving 1 year or more have mental breakdowns. Many will try to go back to prison after spending 5+ years in there. They struggle to cope with day to day life and most have a hard time finding work which makes it even worse. They should have some kind of program to get these guys better mental help while in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieranlewix View Post
    In my opinion, jail is not an effective tool, what say you?
    Yeah, it's not really a tool for rehabilitation or reform at all. Some people, in some places/prisons/programs, are trying to change that, and that's commendable...but in general, no I don't it makes people 'better.' People who do come out of it reformed do so in spite of everything they went through, not because of it.

    There are some individuals that just shouldn't see the light of day ever again, we all know of those examples. But a lot of people put in jail--example, for minor marijuana-related offenses--go in moderately normal people and come out affiliated with a gang, hardened, and in general psychologically fucked because to literally survive in prison, you have to be on guard ALL the time from someone trying to stab and/or rape you, and almost inevitably end up affiliating with a gang of some kind because you need protection.

    THEN these poor sods end up back outside (if they're quote/unquote lucky), and with a black mark on their record finding employment is now a hell of a lot harder, so a lot do end up turning back to crime anyways, and the cycle continues.

    I hope in this country we soon figure out things like locking people up for something as benign as marijuana often in FOR PROFIT prisons (there's no potential conflict of interests there, is there? When your BUSINESS is to lock people up, the more the better...ffs) is as harmful to the rest of society as it is to those who actually go through all that.
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    How the hell does caging people actually help them reform? If there is anything it does is it makes people more violent.

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    The experiences convicts go through in jail are stuff of nightmares. Getting out sane is miraculous actually. I think some other form of punishment should be implemented, especially for minor offenders. Locking up a drug peddler or a person charged with fraud together with a murderer or rapist is only going to make the former two nuts and worse off than they eventually were. If being locked up has to remain the only way to rehabilitate criminals, then it is better to separate the lost from the ones who have a chance to change for the better.

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