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    Why is what is generally "socially acceptable" good by default?

    Random thought I had today. A lot of what is deemed as socially acceptable is good by default to a lot of people on the surface but tends to cause a lot of harm to a lot of people. One example is that it is socially acceptable to drink on a regular basis, go bar or club hopping, and have random hookups. This tends to be more common among the 20 somethings and 30 somethings. I have no issue with people drinking or enjoying clubs but most people who do enjoy these things, I would say 80%, don't do it responsibly. Sometimes it is small harm done like directly within your own social circles or other times it is as bad as driving home drunk and hitting someone with your car.

    People like to address everything bad in this world these days but no one likes to point out that most things only become bad when the person lacks responsibility.

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    It's uncomfortable for the 20-something adult children of the 2010's to accept responsibility for anything or confront the reality that there is right & wrong in their actions. They/we are the first generation to receive participation awards, have their speech policed to such a degree, social media re-affirming them at every turn, etc.

    When it comes time to make a life decision they just take out a big loan they can't afford or drive drunk because it's easier than waiting for a cab/friend. Or they ride the dick carousel and then get mad when nobody wants to marry them. Whatever the vice is whether it's substances, attention, sex, or objects...somehow the current 20-something generation has near-zero patience or capacity for responsibility. Their actions put others at risk and they get upset if you bring that up because they seem to think that simply living day to day is enough to earn awards and praise.

    I mean, just look on Facebook for 5 minutes, go find some girl you knew from highschool or something and scroll down. It'll be an endless stream of pictures of herself (with praise loaded on) interspersed with posts about awful decisions she's making just so that her friends/family can immediately jump in and tell he "no honey, don't worry about it, you go girl!". Guys aren't so bad with the whole affirmation side of things, but since most of us spend our time chasing girls we are too dumb to realize that their insecurities/weaknesses will eventually become our own as well. Rather than acting out, I think guys are having the opposite response to a lot of the recent changes in that they are getting weaker/more withdrawn and accepting of being depressed or stuck in a life course that they are unhappy with.

    Not sure where it's all coming from, but the effects of the last decade or so are quite apparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    It's uncomfortable for the 20-something adult children of the 2010's to accept responsibility for anything or confront the reality that there is right & wrong in their actions. They/we are the first generation to receive participation awards, have their speech policed, social media re-affirming them at every turn, etc.

    When it comes time to make a life decision they just take out a big loan they can't afford or drive drunk because it's easier than waiting for a cab/friend. Or they ride the dick carousel and then get mad when nobody wants to marry them. Whatever the vice is whether it's substances, attention, sex, or objects...somehow the current 20-something generation has near-zero patience or capacity for responsibility. Their actions put others at risk and they get upset if you bring that up because they seem to think that simply living day to day is enough to earn awards and praise.

    I mean, just look on Facebook for 5 minutes, go find some girl you knew from highschool or something and scroll down. It'll be an endless stream of pictures of herself (with praise loaded on) interspersed with posts about awful decisions she's making just so that her friends/family can immediately jump in and tell he "no honey, don't worry about it, you go girl!". Guys aren't so bad with the whole affirmation side of things, but since most of us spend our time chasing girls we are too dumb to realize that their insecurities/weaknesses will eventually become our own as well. Rather than acting out, I think guys are having the opposite response to a lot of the recent changes in that they are getting weaker/more withdrawn and accepting of being depressed or stuck in a life course that they are unhappy with.

    Not sure where it's all coming from, but the effects of the last decade or so are quite apparent.
    This makes a lot of sense. I don't like the idea of being awarded just for showing up to something. There is no substance in that and it becomes boring real fast. I guess the work ethic for a lot of people has dropped considerably because of this. We had a generation that was viewed as too hard, the next was too "free", and now we have a generation of overcoddled adult children who can't handle even healthy or kind criticism. Everything is offensive, everything should be free, and everything on every level should be equal. That is not how society works. It just makes me think back to my softball days and getting a trophy. I hated it, our team sucked, and I was rewarded for it. No wonder so many people don't know the value of working hard.

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    Participation awards are a fucking stupid practice. "Here you go, you're shit at everything but have a medal anyway. You useless cunt."
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    Semi-related, when I got a puppy recently my waifu and I bought into the whole "positive re-enforcement" thing where we never scold her, we ignore bad behavior and praise good behavior. My last two dogs pissed inside maybe 2-3 times before they were potty trained....this new dog was on her third week not caring whether she was inside or outside before letting loose. We yelled at her once and 48 hours later she was house-trained. Tough love exists for a reason, I would never be violent to a person or pet but being stern is a viable option that's worked for 1000's of years. When you coddle just ONE generation look what happens. This result tells me that adversity and some measure of inequality/struggle is required to create a fully-functioning adult.

    My younger sister is the opposite of me in many ways, she never thinks to put anyone down for anything and generally protects all kinds of shite behavior. Whenever I call something out, I get some line about how they're "living their best life" or something. I guess I'm a Boomer, idk...seems to me like the people I'm commenting on are in a crappy situation and have chosen to settle rather than climb. Somehow giving up has become a "best life". I believe that people like my sister genuinely do want the best for people, just like I do, but the bar they set for acceptance is far too low. They're setting what counts as "success" within reach of the lowest common denominator. If we expect more of one another I think we'd climb a lot higher as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    Semi-related, when I got a puppy recently my waifu and I bought into the whole "positive re-enforcement" thing where we never scold her, we ignore bad behavior and praise good behavior. My last two dogs pissed inside maybe 2-3 times before they were potty trained....this new dog was on her third week not caring whether she was inside or outside before letting loose. We yelled at her once and 48 hours later she was house-trained. Tough love exists for a reason, I would never be violent to a person or pet but being stern is a viable option that's worked for 1000's of years. When you coddle just ONE generation look what happens. This result tells me that adversity and some measure of inequality/struggle is required to create a fully-functioning adult.

    My younger sister is the opposite of me in many ways, she never thinks to put anyone down for anything and generally protects all kinds of shite behavior. Whenever I call something out, I get some line about how they're "living their best life" or something. I guess I'm a Boomer, idk...seems to me like the people I'm commenting on are in a crappy situation and have chosen to settle rather than climb. Somehow giving up has become a "best life". I believe that people like my sister genuinely do want the best for people, just like I do, but the bar they set for acceptance is far too low. They're setting what counts as "success" within reach of the lowest common denominator. If we expect more of one another I think we'd climb a lot higher as a whole.
    There is a balance to all of this. If you have a bunch of people telling their kids they can be anything they want, they are the best at everything, and they are special.. When they ender the real world as an adult and realize no one agrees with their parents, they become outraged.

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