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    Howdy folks! Quick update, I've finished Grandia II and I'm about 10% through Wild ARMs 1 paytime-wise. It looks to be about 30 hours long from all accounts, and my save file is almost exactly at the 3-hour mark, so I'll call it 10% for now. My wife wants to play Pokemon and Animal Crossing so I got a Switch last Friday. Nintendo games almost never drop in price & even used Nintendo games from brick & mortar retailers are quite expensive, so I'm doing my Switch shopping on eBay. Since it's a cartridge & was probably taken out of its packaging and inserted into a Switch once or twice, it's practically new anyway so I don't mind Used copies at all. When I'm saving $20-30 each it's a no-brainer. I really wouldn't be able to afford gaming right now due to the new house and all the important boring shit I'm buying for that. ($2.5k for a fence?!?!?!)

    I plan on starting Octopath Traveler tonight, but I won't add it to the list until I actually start it. Oh yeah! and I started on Final Fantasy Tactics (again) with my buddy who was over this weekend. We've started and re-started it so many times. I even got within 2 battles of the end but my party was so janky that progression became impossible. We went in really hard this time with a strategy guide and everything, so I think we are finally serious enough to finish it. The nice thing about FFT is that if you know how many battles there are, it's easy to gauge your progress (not counting grinding).

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    Looks like I missed your post with lots of photos! It would be interesting to compare those with your current gaming setup. I'm still really looking forward to replaying Grandia I and II. It sounds like you enjoyed both of them.

    It can be difficult to come up with a percentage when there aren't levels or stages. I think I'll be using "How Long to Beat" as a general guide there. (You used that for Wild Arms?) I was under the impression you already had a Nintendo Switch..? Yeah, Nintendo's always been expensive. Many years back I was able to make a fair bit of cash from selling Nintendo DS collection. You'd have never seen those prices from games on other platforms.

    Final Fantasy Tactics looks quite long considering it's not a mainline Final Fantasy. JRPGs will probably be the death of my progress. Since it's a JRPG voyage, how about some of the more retro titles? Did you ever play Illusion of Time? Though, like Zelda... is it a JRPG? Can you even play it as a part of this voyage? (Uh-oh, this debate is quite a can of worms.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Looks like I missed your post with lots of photos! It would be interesting to compare those with your current gaming setup. I'm still really looking forward to replaying Grandia I and II. It sounds like you enjoyed both of them.

    It can be difficult to come up with a percentage when there aren't levels or stages. I think I'll be using "How Long to Beat" as a general guide there. (You used that for Wild Arms?) I was under the impression you already had a Nintendo Switch..? Yeah, Nintendo's always been expensive. Many years back I was able to make a fair bit of cash from selling Nintendo DS collection. You'd have never seen those prices from games on other platforms.

    Final Fantasy Tactics looks quite long considering it's not a mainline Final Fantasy. JRPGs will probably be the death of my progress. Since it's a JRPG voyage, how about some of the more retro titles? Did you ever play Illusion of Time? Though, like Zelda... is it a JRPG? Can you even play it as a part of this voyage? (Uh-oh, this debate is quite a can of worms.)
    I'm considering doing a video this time actually. Pictures won't really show the scale of the new setup properly since it's really wide. I'll upload it you youtube or something then make it private and embed it here when I get around to it. I did enjoy both Grandia games I've played, although I preferred I to II if only for the story. While Grandia was rather lighthearted and generic, it was at least cohesive. Grandia II falls apart in the last 5 hours and relentlessly beats you over the head with its message. To add insult to injury...the message isn't internally consistent. B+ to A- range on graphics and gameplay but the story really shot itself in the foot.

    I did not use HLTB for Wild ARMs since I've found the times on there to be grossly inconsistent with my playtimes (whether longer or shorter, they're often 15+ hours off on JRPGs). Rather, I watched a few reviews from YouTubers that I've gauged to be more in common with myself. Nope, I just got a Switch 4 days ago. We've talked about it 2 or 3 times via PMs/Skype and you're usually surprised that I don't have one. I think you have me confused with someone or you assume that my connection with Zelda must mean I own a Switch each time it comes up I don't think I've ever owned a new console, now that I think about it. I always wait a few years and play my backlog while waiting for the system & games to drop in price. I may go to the PS5 midnight release, just so I can do it once in my life.

    FFT is very long and that owes mostly to the slow as molasses battles. JRPGs will kill any backlog attempt, UNLESS your backlog solely consists of JRPGs! When you said Illusion of Time it took me a moment:

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    You learn something every day. Those kinds of games are in the backlog, yes, but Action RPGs are low-priority. Just my opinion, but Zelda is not a JRPG. I love Zelda games more than anyone, but I keep that occupies an entirely different place in my heart than say...Final Fantasy VIII. Even if they share a few mechanics, I think you can look at Ocarina of Time or something and then look at FFT and tell immediately that they're wildly different genres. I've played Secret of Mana, but i'm not super into action combat. It's part of the reason I don't have much interest in Chrono Trigger but DID play through Chrono Cross.

    Keep in mind I was born in late 1992, so most of what I'm interested in is stuff from my childhood circa-1998/99 when I first discovered JRPGs. The late 90's to mid-90's at the very earliest is the aesthetic that calls to me. I didn't get a SNES until I was 20 so I have very little nostalgia for SNES games and I only had one friend who had one as a kid that I played just once. Action RPGs and SNES games are in the mix, just not yet! In fact, it was a tossup between FFT & FFIV (aka FFII), but Mark chose FFT because we've started it so many times and fizzled out.

    Thanks for the reply! It's good to actually talk about stuff rather than just coming here to post progress bars.
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    Got started on this 2 nights ago. I'm trying to complete one Chapter per night. there are 32 Chapters and the two I completed thus far are 1.5 hours each.
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    It's been a long time since I completed Grandia II but I do recall the last few hours being underwhelming, which is a shame because it's otherwise an excellent JRPG. Usually I find HLTB handy but longplays can be useful for this if they're not by people who rush through games. Yeah, you've gotta forgive me for thinking you had a Switch. Who wouldn't assume so with your epic Zelda fanboyism? (Probably also to do with how tired I grew of people talking about Breath of the Wild, so much so that it put me off buying a Switch. In the end I've found that I don't want a Switch anyway.)

    That Zelda JRPG thing is actually quite the salty debate. I can see where people are coming from. When I think of A Link to the Past's Mega Drive counterpart, The Story of Thor, I only think of it as a hack-and-slash adventure game. Sure, it has some statistics and an inventory, but so do many, many games.

    I don't get the part about Chrono Trigger. The only major difference between it and Grandia is that it doesn't transition to a battle environment. It's as if having more seamless battles without the loading time is a bad thing. I think you'd really like Chrono Trigger if you gave it more of a chance. Like a good live action film, take it on balls-deep and you'll probably find that it's pretty decent.
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    That's a relatively short post but so much I want to comment on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    which is a shame because it's otherwise an excellent JRPG
    Yep. I preferred the art style of Grandia II and the battles as well (I won't say the battle system itself, since they're near-identical). I felt that the story and most characters were less impactful than the first Grandia but that's purely subjective and I don't expect anyone to agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Usually I find HLTB handy but longplays can be useful for this if they're not by people who rush through games.
    We all play games at different speeds, so HLTB and Longplays are hit or miss. It's not that I don't check them for a ballpark, but if I'm determined to play through a game it doesn't matter if it's 10 hours or 100, so I often don't bother.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Yeah, you've gotta forgive me for thinking you had a Switch. Who wouldn't assume so with your epic Zelda fanboyism? (Probably also to do with how tired I grew of people talking about Breath of the Wild, so much so that it put me off buying a Switch. In the end I've found that I don't want a Switch anyway.)
    I get where you're coming from for sure. It can be difficult to discern the rabid fanboys from your traditional, reasonable "fan". Hell, I'm probably a Zelda mega-fan, but I don't go all Rick & Morty obnoxious about it or sing Nintendo's praises night & day. It's my favorite game series next to FF but I've probably only mentioned Zelda to you 3 times total, because I try to keep it in check (unlike others). Once someone goes full retard about BotW, it's hard to distinguish them from the soyboys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    That Zelda JRPG thing is actually quite the salty debate.
    Believe me when I say I know.
    That said, I don't get it. I'm entirely uninterested in engaging with that argument. To me it's not a JRPG. If it is to someone else...that's great, I don't care. They just aren't similar enough in my opinion. I like the series regardless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    I don't get the part about Chrono Trigger. The only major difference between it and Grandia is that it doesn't transition to a battle environment.
    I hadn't thought of it that way. It may just be that I don't like the look of Chrono Trigger as much? I don't have any good objective reason, really. And I never said it was off the list! Just lower priority despite all the praise I've heard. I think I was mistaken about the battle system though, I thought you could run around during battles like Secret of Mana. Looking at some gameplay videos, Chrono Trigger is more up my alley than I thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    It's as if having more seamless battles without the loading time is a bad thing.
    I can't really explain it, but that is part of the experience for me. The JRPGs I was first exposed to were primarily on the PS1 (FFT, FF7 and FF8 all around the same time). Loading times followed by my team lined up against the enemy line is sort of what my brain expects. If I grew up 1 console generation earlier, I'd be used to the more seamless experience of cartridge JRPGs. I get where you're coming from though. I'll need to take another look at Chrono Trigger on eBay and see if I can pick up a copy for a reasonable price these days. My Super Nintendo is hooked up at the moment...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    I think you'd really like Chrono Trigger if you gave it more of a chance.
    I think so too! It doesn't look appealing to me, but I'm sure I will enjoy it more once I have some hands-on time with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Like a good live action film, take it on balls-deep and you'll probably find that it's pretty decent.
    Has literally never happened to me.

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    I've completed 7 out of 32 Chapters now.
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    It's been about a week since my last update. I've completed 16/32 chapters, but I know there are 4 optional dungeons near the end of the game now so I'm not quite 50% done despite the chapter completion count.
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