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    RE: Capital Punishment

    Don't look at me, I didn't start this thread!
    "It turned out that the ghost was just Mr. Finley, who ran the amusement park. The spooky part is that, as soon as the ghost appeared, the teenagers' dog began to speak! And it spoke in a tortured parody of human speech: 'relp me, Raggy,' it would say. 'I am an abomination and rould re rilled. Rill re, Raggy.'"

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    RE: Capital Punishment

    Fear not Mantis.
    The voices are nice mostly...mostly.
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    This was a good idea Mantis.

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    RE: Capital Punishment

    I figure I'll toss my opinion in on this topic. Fair warning, my views are probably a little more hard core then those of others.

    Here in the US, we have crime issues. Many say our problems are caused by a lengthy trial process, lax gun regulations and high drug use.

    The US needs to rethink our judiciary system. It would be in our best interest to fast track death row. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial but the length of trials before execution beings the system to a crawl and wastes tax payers money. When an individual is convicted to death the proceedings and all evidence should automatically be review by a third party. All witnesses and evidence should be re-examined by said 3rd party. Incarcerating a prisoner is expensive. There needs to be a cap on the amount of time the prisoner should be allowed in the system, the cap should be based on the time the 3rd party needs to fully review everything. I see a time of 5 years being enough. After the 5 year cap for review by the 3rd party the prisoner should be restrained in a metal chair that lacks a solid back support. The prisoner should be hooded, following the prisoner being hooded they should be shot through the heart with a large caliber bullet. A large caliber should be used as striking the heart isn't guaranteed. The shock wave of a large caliber would ensure destruction of heart muscle. Implementing this method would encore the cost of a full review for the prisoners case, but the cost would be offset by quickly removing the prisoner from the prison system.

    Gun laws need to be tightened down, I do agree with this debate in America. I will give a brief example; while living in Alabama I went to a firing range to wast lead and time. When I entered the store I saw an AK-47 in the main gun display case. 15 minutes after seeing the AK-47 I left the firing range with my .40 CZ and a brand new AK-47; complete with 2 banana clips, sling and bayonet. The process of purchasing a gun, especially a high powered rifle, needs to be standardised across America. The background check should follow the same process as gaining a low level security clearance. Those with high debt and low income, a criminal record, employment history with repeated marks against the employee from many employers should not be allowed to own a weapon. In now way and I stating that those factors mean a person is destined to commit a crime, but as with a security clearance, those factors present a higher probability of unlawful actions by the individual. Gun manufactures do not create the issues with misuse of guns in America, that being said there should be regulations on firearm accessories. The manufactures of extended magazines for firearms need heavy regulation, extended magazines was used as an example as there are other accessories to firearms that need to be regulated as well.

    Drug use in America is an issue. The drug users in America can be helped, we, Americans should try to aid drug users in ridding the addiction. I foresee that being very costly. Thats a different topic as I will be focusing on drug dealers. Drug dealers in America are a burden on our society. The money they take in and use to purchase drugs is mostly sent beyond Americas borders. This also has an impact on states and the nations finical instructor, that can be covered later as its off topic. Getting back on topic, drug dealers are breaking the law. For markets and resources that operate outside the law, the only way to regulate themselves is with unlawful activities. That said, drug dealers operate illegally and commit crimes. Should it be a one man operation or a group, gang, they will protect their income with any means. To rectify this burden within America it should be a kill-on-sight offence. I don't think the military should be used on citizens within a nation as a law force, but, in the case of drug dealers and gangs we could use a cleansing. Remove the source and make dealing an extreme punishment and drug use within America will plummet. This also touches base on the legal drug dealers, doctors need heavy regulation. This can be achieved through Obama-care, should they choose. Doctors operating private practices and practices within "branch" hospitals need an electronic system to track all narcotics prescribed. When prescriptions are prescribed in high doses over an extended period of time the prescribing doctor should be mandated to provide a justification for doing so. I imagine there would be many claiming invasion of privacy but I do not foresee any issue with this as the health care being provided will be paid for, in part, by the government.

    Just my 2cents
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    RE: Capital Punishment

    I'm sorta in a split mind about this.

    In the UK, the prison system is incredibly weak. It's too much rehabilitation, not enough punishment. As a result, there's no deterent to actually committing crimes. Hence why we have overcrowding in prisions.

    I do not understand why we keep prisoners locked up who have x consecutive life-sentances. They're gonna die in prison ANYWAY so they might as well recieve capital punishment cause otherwise they're just draining the money from the tax payers.

    However, in the past innocent people have been hung. It seriously worries me that it would happen again if capital punishment is re-introduced in the UK. No doubt it has happened in the US states that still have it.

    But I do feel that mass murderers and those who show no remorse and are highly unlikely to change should be hung/injected/whatever - if they are proven to be 100% guilty - no way were they not. Though this then asks the questions about those with psychological issues; what happens with them?

    EDIT: as with America and it's issue with guns... Just to point out that the UK gun crime is now pretty much non-existant since it's been very difficult to aquire a gun. We do have a rather large issue with knife crime as a result though
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    RE: Capital Punishment

    As a knife collector you statement intrigues me...
    What's the preferred blade in these scenarios?
    Butterfly? Switch?...Bowie?
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    This was a good idea Mantis.

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    RE: Capital Punishment

    Mopman: I agree with you for the most part, with two bones. The first is this: Fear is the only tactic we have for controlling criminals. Therefore, the death penalty should be as fearsome as possible. As a result, I think that lethal injection, etc. are too soft, and we need to go harder. How about beheading? Or maybe crucifixion? Or perhaps impalement? I think these would help discourage criminals.

    Second: I think gun laws should be loosened. I saw a vid where a man carrying a rifle walked into a convenience store with a rifle, only to be met with pistol fire from all 3 of the customers.
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    RE: Capital Punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by AsherTheWilliams
    As a knife collector you statement intrigues me...
    What's the preferred blade in these scenarios?
    Butterfly? Switch?...Bowie?
    lolz, I imagine whatever is at hand - such as the rather sharp knives in the kitchen drawer, they seem to do a lot of damage if you happen to miss the veg and get your finger instead. I'm not clumsy I swear.

    @Aishawasframed!
    Not quite sure how your example backs up your argument of guns laws being loosened. That example tells me that gun laws are way to lax already, and should be tightened in order to stop something like that from happening. I feel that guns ownership should be restricted to people with authority (police, FBI, CIA, armed forces, MI5 etc) and then to a few others (like your hunters/farmers)

    Getting a bit of topic really - but I s'pose that's my fault for mentioning knife crime and throwing in my pennyworth opinion on gun laws.

    EDIT: just read Aishawasframed!'s whole thing. Lol, beheading, tad random and a bit on the medieval side. If they do something really horrid then how about hanged, drawn and quartered? Or putting the head on a spike? Short drop sudden stop is a bit less gruesome, and then there's "good ol' sparky"
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    RE: Capital Punishment

    That's a shame.
    I would hope that they would at least try and shiv in style.

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    This was a good idea Mantis.

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    RE: Capital Punishment

    To add; anyone so much as merely promoting terrorism should be swung from the ceiling too. Bastards.
    "It turned out that the ghost was just Mr. Finley, who ran the amusement park. The spooky part is that, as soon as the ghost appeared, the teenagers' dog began to speak! And it spoke in a tortured parody of human speech: 'relp me, Raggy,' it would say. 'I am an abomination and rould re rilled. Rill re, Raggy.'"

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    RE: Capital Punishment

    I feel that certain situations should end with captial punishment and in some cases, the worst kind of torture before death.

    However, the ONLY reason why I go against the Capital Punishment idea is that there are a LOT of people out in prisons right now who aren't guilty and to execute wrongly without the full evidence is not justifiable.

    But if it were possible to know with 100% assurance that the particular criminal did commit those crimes, I think that the way we execute won't stop anyone from doing what they are doing. I think we need to bring back Crucifixions to punishment for things like murder and terrorism.

    But as always, I save the best for last: For the rapists who I have NO sympathy what-so-ever. Because to me, rape is worse than death. I feel we should castrate rapists with a fishing knife and then crucify upside down. Yeah, call me sadistic or whatever you want, but the fact is that iif those who rape think that it's totally okay to do what they did, then they should see that the punishment they go through still doesn't compare to the emotional scars left by their actions.
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