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    Comic book movies

    So as most of you know, comic book movies are in. They have been for awhile and there isn't really any sign of it slowing down. I've seen people online complain about it how it's overdone, that they are all lame, ect. but I've never really see them bring up the problem that, at least for me, is bigger than that.

    I enjoy comic book movies, personally. I used to be an avid reader of comic books when I was a little kid and I grew up on a lot of superhero movies (Tim Burton's Batman, the Richard Donner Superman movie, and The Rocketeer just to name a few). There is a lot of things stylistically and tonally that you can do with a movie adapted from the comic. I think that's not much of a possibility now and the one I blame for it is The Avengers. Technically, Iron Man started this trend but it's The Avengers that I think solidify this standard. If you watch the recent Marvel movies, you'll notice a lot of stuff that came from The Avengers from the attempts and humor and quips, it's references to the other movies and characters among other things. A lot of people enjoy them, but to me, it just makes them feel samey. Like, it feels like they just use a formula and it works so they don't really have to do anything that strays from the norm. The real problem is that there is no creative vision behind it. There's no one helming these movies that have a voice of their own. If you look up the directors of these movies, you'll notice that, with the exception of the likes of Shane Black and Kenneth Branagh, most of them are either directors from TV or some no name director who has only done a couple of small movies. Basically, Marvel (And in turn Disney) wants directors who aren't going to clash with the studio or really challenge them creatively. It maybe paying off for them financially but I think getting directors with no creative back bone is a huge mistake.

    Take the 2002 Spider-Man movie. I love that movie and part of the reason that it's great that because Sam Raimi was at the helm. If you're familiar with his movies, in particular The Evil Dead trilogy, you can see his marks on this movie like the crazy camera tricks and the dorky, corny humor allowed the movie it's own voice. It's certainly Sam Raimi's version of this particular character. I mentioned the Tim Burton Batman movie earlier. Die hard fans of Batman criticize it for some deviations from the character but part of what made that movie memorable was combining the classic Batman iconography with his tradmark style and it's why that movie stands out. Hell, even Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, while not a good movie, at least wasn't trying the emulate the MCU and marched to the beat of it's own drum (I do have to admit, Ghost Rider is my favorite comic book character and I enjoy Nic Cage flipping his shit so, I'm not going to argue that it's a hidden gem, I do have a soft spot for that movie).

    There's nothing like that with current comic book movies. Because it's a shared universe, there really isn't any room for directors to apply their own vision and style to it. They have to conform to the tone of the other movies. I know I harp on Marvel for this, but DC is guilty of this too. The only difference is that DC went "Hey, people liked the dark gritty realism of the Christopher Nolan Batman movies so it'll work for Superman and the rest of the DC characters right? Right?" though from what I'm hearing, Justice League was trying to go for a more Marvel style movie.

    I guess what I'm getting at is there's nothing really interesting with comic book movies anymore. There are no moments that are really going to stick with anyone. What's the last comic book movie that had cool moments like this?



    Or this?



    Giving comic book movies a shared universe is a mistake.

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    Disney/Marvel found the golden formula and milking it. Not saying it's a bad thing I'm like most of them myself. However, is not going to last forever. I read and collected comic books from 8 years old to about my late teens. Mostly Marvel, some Image/DC titles and random Dark Horse stuff. My biggest gripe was Iron Man 2 watered down the 'Demon in he Bottle' story from the comics were Tony Stark was a full blown alcoholic and caused more problems than helped.
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    Yeah I am not a fan of throwing everything into the same "universe". I loved the earlier "new generation" movies from the first set of Spiderman movies on. I enjoyed the Dark Knight, and even enjoyed the Hulk movie... But not that everything is becoming on long movie with different "angles", I have lost interest. It doesn't help either that a lot of the darkness with these heroes in the comics is not being portrayed accurately.

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    Yeah I miss those series Brandon Lee was murdered and Mark Dacascos took his place but it wasn't as good as the Son of the Dragon. I love blade movies, he's an original marvel dark hero but he got convicted and served prison time that ended the blade movies. I think the best comic based hero movie was the dark Knight trilogy of Christopher Nolan starring the best Batman in my book Christian Bale but I do miss Heath Ledger who in my book aced the Joker character.

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