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    Is anyone else here getting as sick as I am of all the random remakes and reboots of shows and movies from the 90s? I mean it seems that it's pretty much all that's coming out right now. Just in this past month I've heard of a remake of Poltergeist, a sequel/reboot of Mad Max (which was admittedly awesome), a sequel/reboot of the show ReBoot, and a remake of Big Trouble in Little Chinatown (starring The Rock, because why not). The worst part is that most of the things coming out just seem to be banking on name value alone to get people to come in.
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    Yeah. I haven't even bothered watching the remake of Total Recall because of the bad reviews. I want to preserve my good memories of that (arguably bad, but also good somehow) film. I look forward to seeing the new Mad Max.

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    I'm not really fond of all these remakes and or revivals of series. I think if they ended a film/TV series on a good note, they should leave it and let it be remembered as something good, rather than reviving it, turning it to rubbish and letting it be remembered for being rubbish.

    I often wonder if people are running out of ideas for films/tv shows, hence the revivals of some of them.

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    The thing with this is though that not ALL reboots or remakes are terrible. Like the new Mad Max movie. It's awesome. But 90% of it is crap. That's why I can't go see any of these movies: the chance that the movie is just going to be terrible outweighs the chance it'll be a good movie. And when it is a good movie, I wouldn't know because I never went to see it.
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    I don't bother going to the movies at all mostly they're not good in the first place. As for the reboot/remakes most of them are sh*t. I give Chris Nolan credit for the Batman movies were fairly good, especially compared to Joel Schumacher's Batman movies. The sad part is the original movies they're rebooting or remaking you can find in the bargain bins in store for around $5. And I refuse to ever watch the remake of the Pink Panther. Peter Sellers needed to rise from the grave and kick Steve Martin in the nuts for doing a horrid parity of Inspector Clouseau.
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    As I write this, I can attest stateside we're going through an epidemic of this currently...of course, it's all over, doesn't matter which side of whatever ocean you inhabit. It's annoying how riding a well-established brand's coattail gives a company free-reign to exploit it, make a few bucks, and not really have to give all that many f*cks when doing it because the name alone will sell the product...well, far enough for them to make money on an opening weekend, that is...though thankfully, that may be changing with the internet...if a movie genuinely sucks balls, word gets around at breakneck speed, and studio's usual de facto mode of operation of 'well, yeah it sucks, but at least we'll make our money back in ticket sales' may be going the way of the dodo.
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    There are one kind of remakes I absolutely stay away from: the dreaded US remake of a forgein film. I got this bad taste from the Grudge and Old Boy. Watch this Youtube video below. It does a pretty good job explaining the failings of remakes and reboots of movies.

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    Hollywood just remade Ben-Hur for the third time.

    Why do you think Hollywood is banking on remakes? The original ideas are limited. Old films will make money with the old generations and will be rebranded for the new young generations. Plus, with CGI technology the films can be made looking cooler, but does that equal better? EXAMPLE: The Thing 1982 v The Thing 2011.

    I enjoy the original films. BUT when a film is based on some source material (Anime, Book, Graphic Novel, etc..) and the film was remade to match that source material, that will be acceptable,
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmanmark08 View Post
    Hollywood just remade Ben-Hur for the third time.

    Why do you think Hollywood is banking on remakes? The original ideas are limited. Old films will make money with the old generations and will be rebranded for the new young generations. Plus, with CGI technology the films can be made looking cooler, but does that equal better? EXAMPLE: The Thing 1982 v The Thing 2011.

    I enjoy the original films. BUT when a film is based on some source material (Anime, Book, Graphic Novel, etc..) and the film was remade to match that source material, that will be acceptable,
    The funny thing is, there are plenty of ideas 'out there' (even if they're not within the heads of studio execs), it's just financially safer to make something that's already been successful, e.g. a published work or a preexisting film.

    And I suppose a lot of this is subjective, and likely a product of my upbringing/academic background, but I dislike the current 'MAKE IT 100% FAITHFUL' model. I love the LOTR, both Tolkien's work AND Jackson's film adaptations...the latter I love partially because it's the best FILM adaptation one could possibly have asked for covering the novels. Was it 100% 'faithful'? Some would say no, as indeed their were differences, cuts made for time, etc. but I would say, in spirit, it was pretty much faithful to Tolkien's vision.

    My favorite go-to case for this sort of thing is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders. Everyone loves to praise the recent 'faithful' tv series and bash the 1990s OVA. I liked the tv series, and I'm glad Araki got to see his work, in its entirety, (stiffly) animated...but I LOVE the OVA in part because directors like Hiroyuki Kitakubo knew how to ADAPT a work from one medium and transpose it to the medium of the moving image. When you literally lift manga pages and animate every single panel, you're left with TONS of nonessential exposition and other 'fat' which would otherwise be trimmed by a skilled director/screenwriters in the interest of keeping the plot moving, understanding the strengths and weaknesses of each respective medium, etc.

    My apologies everyone for digressing so far off the beaten path! My point is: I don't know why so many people's de facto mode is, "Well, as long as it's EXACTLY like the book/comic/manga, then it's good" when in reality, 1. they're different mediums (something that works well in one may not translate effectively in the other), and 2. Why do we treat "the original" of 'x' like it's the freakin' Holy Bible? Maybe the comic wasn't perfect...maybe, dare I say it, there are ways an adaptation (or again, dare I say despite my own disbelief, a remake) can potentially improve upon the original? Then again, that's not really the "safe" thing to do, either.

    Either way, the modes we're locked into--nothing original, go with something already well-received and don't deviate from the blueprint of the original in any way or uber fans will crucify us--inhibits bright minds and stifles creativity.
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    I totally agree, Lobo. I can't stand it when Fire and Ice fans constatly trash the TV series for straying from the books, it's a completely different medium, no shit there are going to be differences! How else do you expect them to squeeze a 2500 page book into a two hour film? Rather than criticize for 'not being the same', people should appreciate it for the director's own vision, for taking it in a different direction. Besides, if it followed the source material word for word there would be no room for surprises! You would already know exactly how the story is going to play out.

    I think a part of it is-- people who were long-term fans of the books, after the TV series releases, there comes an influx of new fans. It's common for those newer fans to be treated with disdain, 'you're not a real fan!', 'the books are better!', that kind of thing. And though I do empathize to an extent, those people are by definition; hipsters.

    And speaking of Stardust Crusaders, I actually preferred the 90s adaption of Dio's World; It has a grittier, more desperate atmosphere than the newer adaption, as much as I love David Productions. The animation feels more 'seamless' as well, I don't know how to explain it.

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