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    Least Favourite Game Genre

    We all have a certain type of game that we just can't get into. I was tempted to say FPS, since everyone's jumping on that bandwagon these days, and it has made for so many uninspired clones. Call of Duty itself hasn't done anything new in ages. But no, there are actually some FPS game I do like. Doom, Quake, Goldeneye, Timesplitters, Halo. You know, when the genre actually had some imagination. To be honest, I don't think there is really a genre I can say is entirely bad, but the one that has the largest amount of games that don't appeal to me is the Turn Based Strategy genre. I'm not talking about RPG's that have Turn Based combat. I mean game that are like Age of Empires, or Command and Conquer, except, it's not in real time. Sid Meier's Civilization? I think I'd rather watch paint dry. I play a number of games that the average person would consider "boring", but there's no topping this crap. I don't care how good critics and neckbeards say Heroes of Might and Magic is, it's boring as shit, to me.

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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    JRPG's.

    I have better things to do than sit around fighting the same ****ing thing over and over again in a manner consisting of nothing but blasting through a series of menus as fast as I can hammer the button, just so that I can make any progress in the main game. In other words, **** any game that features grinding.

    I'd rather grind elephant shit. WITH MY BARE HANDS.
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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    I despise Rhythm games simply because I hate how picky some of them can be.

    I also have a large hatred towards puzzle games, especially ones that abuse box puzzles. Do something different like a pipe-maze game. Don't give me 50 different variations on Sokoban.
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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    Baron, I'm glad someone had the bravery to talk shit about JRPG's. I pretty well hate most of them. Even the ever popular Final Fantasy. Well, hate is a strong word. More like, I have no interest in whatsoever, and sometimes become annoyed when people keep talking about f*****g FF7. The ones I can name off the top of the head that I enjoyed, are Lost Odyssey and Enchanted Arms (And Pokemon, if you count that). I feel like I might enjoy Dragon Quest games, but I have yet to actually play one, despite owning one for the PS2.
    As for rhythm games, I feel like they belong in the past. As you can see, I quite like Parappa the Rapper, It was innovative when it came out, like 15 years ago. It made way for other classics, like DDR, and Samba De Amigo. Then a couple of years back, Guitar hero and it's ilk suddenly became massively popular. What am I getting at? The genre has advanced in no way shape or form, yet they still expect us to shell out the extra cash for a cheap plastic peripheral.

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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    Quote Originally Posted by lloydSSJ4
    Baron, I'm glad someone had the bravery to talk shit about JRPG's.
    Someone was going to eventually, I'm just glad it was me.

    Quote Originally Posted by lloydSSJ4
    Guitar hero and it's ilk suddenly became massively popular. What am I getting at? The genre has advanced in no way shape or form, yet they still expect us to shell out the extra cash for a cheap plastic peripheral.
    I dislike GH for the simple reason that it creates endless morons who try and compare it to the real thing. As a guitarist, it's pretty insulting to listen to some knobend as they try and convince me that a 2ft toy with 5 buttons and a small switch is equally as complicated to use as a 4ft guitar with 6 strings and several dozen frets.

    Yes, yes, so in GH you can 'play' that Dragonforce nonsense in that you can hit 5 buttons at a reasonable speed. Now if the method's so similar to the real thing, try and play the solo to Oasis' "Live Forever", on an actual guitar, without making a single mistake. Come on, you plastic rock star, what's the matter? It's not that difficult! It's not even half the speed! Oh, what's that? You can't do it? Because it requires more fingers? Well that'll teach you then, you insufferable tosser.
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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    I'm not going to discuss JRPGs much, because you're all entitled to your own opinion. I will say two things though. First of all, the much-loved and much-hated (it makes my face smile when people rage over it) Final Fantasy VII I played through less than a year ago without any grinding at all or walkthroughs, and I thoroughly enjoyed its narrative. Secondly, Lost Odyssey is well known as a spiritual successor to Final Fantasy, but does actually involve some grinding. For most players, anyway. But back to the main topic...

    I think it's a difficult topic because genres are a very broad thing, although they often have their own sub-genres. I'm going to have the bravery to say RTS games. And believe me, unlike a lot of people and RPGs, I've tried to get into popular RTS games. Command and Conquer and Red Alert, and some kind of open source clone recommended by Baron. They do have a learning curve, and I haven't played them a lot, but the fact I'm not great at them isn't my reason for disliking them. I just find them too boring for my liking.

    Sure, I love strategy. I also love a lot of turn-based strategy. Advance Wars and Worms, for instance. If TBS sucks, why do you think chess was such a success? Turn-based gives you more of an opportunity to plan out a strategy, without having to resort to a Leeroy Jenkins approach when in a difficult situation. Heck, you don't have to. Your units will do it for you. But that's to be expected with RTS games. My main beef with the RTS genre is that nearly all of them follow the same design...
    1. Start off with a fairly limited budget whilst leaning back on your armchair
    2. With this budget, build a base, which often just emerges from the ground
    3. Wait until funds regenerate, and build something on the base that will generate more funds for you (often it will be something related to mining)
    4. Also, there's usually a structure of sorts which will speed up fund generation (alternatively a power station that will increase a power value, which will allow the creation of better units)
    5. Build barracks, and in most RTS games, once you have some basic infantry on the frontlines, you then build factories for ground units and air units
    6. There will usually be a jeep, and in nearly all RTS games there's a fog of war
    7. The jeep will have an extended field of vision, thus acting as a scout to make the black space (fog of war) visible
    8. Once you have an effective strategy in place (rapid fund generation and able to build many units) and perhaps have built a couple more bases at designated locations, it's time to pick an enemy (if there's more than one), and... LEEROOOOY JEEEENKINS!

    I'm not trying to say RTS games involve no strategy. That's not true of course. It just pisses me off how most RTS games are nearly the same. Military theme, enemies are from different countries and so on, basically a war theme. RTS games often (but not always) have little or no narrative, either. Or the narrative seems to be purposely flimsy, in a comedic style, like Red Alert 2 if memory serves. I'd go as far as saying RTS is even more of a carbon copy genre than FPS, and most certainly RPG. At least RPGs have their own often-unique narratives even if combat seems to generally follow the same design. RTS? Military drivel, same design, et cetera. I tried out Halo Wars to ease into the genre which most veteran RTS players laugh at because it's Halo and a console game, but I didn't find it too different from PC RTS, insignificant control differences aside.

    Oh, and also, how is DDR much different from Guitar Hero as far as peripherals cost? If memory serves, the dance mat wasn't much cheaper than Guitar Hero/related games peripherals. I played DJ Hero a few months back and found it fairly enjoyable. I'd be willing to give the genre more of a chance if I can pick up one of the games for cheap.

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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    I was literally just playing OpenRA, as it turns out. But anyway, I don't think ALL TBS games suck. Chess is a fun board game, And I enjoy it's simplicity. Also, games like Worms are a little different than what I'm referring to (I love worms). I guess I'm talking about the much more complex TBSs. Seriously, try Civilization, and tell me if it doesn't send you to sleep.
    As for the DDR mat, you missed the point I was trying to make;
    "The genre has advanced in no way shape or form, yet they still expect us to shell out the extra cash for a cheap plastic peripheral."
    What I'm saying is, it was fine to pay good money for something like that, back when it was a new idea, but the games themselves lend nothing to support the purchase anymore, in my opinion. I don't see how it would be any different than charging 70 quid for Duck Hunt HD, with a light gun. Also, slightly unrelated to the argument, but still a valid point, building on what Baron said. With games Like DDR and Sing Star, you are actually dancing/singing, whereas with Guitar Hero, and DJ Hero, you are not doing the real thing. I'm not an expert turntablist, but I can definitely vouch for the real thing being completely different to the game.

    EDIT: Also, waiting for Baron to come back furious about the RTS mini-rant.

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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    But Advance Wars is, er, advanced. The amount of strategy and the gameplay in general is ingenious, and it plays like an advanced version of quite a few board games. I'll admit to not having played these "complex" TBS games you speak of, so I'll hold you to that. At least until I fall into deep slumber. And for the record, Worms is a TBS, but as I stated in my previous post, it's a difficult thing to specify genres you dislike because there's often a lot of variety. Let me elaborate by saying that there's a different kind of RTS game I enjoy. That is defence games, so let me say I'm not referring to defence games when I speak of RTS, since they play very differently from the typical RTS.

    I can see what you're saying about music games. But the fact a genre has aged doesn't mean it's any cheaper to manufacture peripherals. Do you really think somebody who plays Samba De Amigo is automatically qualified to perform in a group of musicians with maracas? How about games like Donkey Konga with bongos? Whilst it's more true to reality than Guitar Hero is, it still won't teach you properly how to play the bongos. Because it is not a simulation or a training programme. It's a game that is played for fun. As is Guitar Hero/Rock Band, or Drum Hero or whatever it's called. Band Hero? Oh, I don't know.

    The developers of these games never made the claim that they will teach you how to become a professional musician. I'll admit, I have before held a similar opinion that there are some real idiots out there who state how good they are at Guitar Hero to the extent they're making themselves out to be pro musicians. But let's step away from that for a moment. When I played DJ Hero, I knew it was nothing like being a real DJ—it's a game. It doesn't contain the mundane parts of being a real musician and the steep learning curves of it all. The fact some people are morons doesn't change how fun the game actually is. You can ignore them.

    Are you really that bothered by the fact you're not doing the real thing when playing these games? I'd go as far as saying the same applies to games like DDR, just to a lesser extent. The mat and the game explain exactly how to dance (in a limited way). Now after a good session of DDR, could you stand in front of a crowd and perform impressively? In most cases, I'd say no. Games are made for escapism. Even "realistic" games like Call of Duty, whilst delivering an involving experience, don't truly put you in the shoes of a soldier. So, ten years from now, Dr. X comes along and presents a working Smell-o-Meter. It works. But how many people are willing to try out a game that emulates the smell of rotting bodies and gunpowder?

    By the way, check this out. Come on, it's not that expensive. You could probably find it second hand for much cheaper, but for a new price that ain't half bad. You'll often pay that much for a racing wheel alone, or for a new game release. But this includes a large peripheral. I know that guitar would cost significantly more to produce than a dance mat, and I see recent DDR games costing only £10-15 less.

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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    I was tempted to say JRPGs, but I'm going to go with sports games. I just don't find them entertaining.
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    RE: Least Favourite Game Genre

    Sports is too broad of a genre, I think. For instance, arguably, you could call CTF in some FPS games a sport since airsoft/paintballing are often considered sports, and the core merchanisms of CTF in games/the sports alike are very similar. But stepping away from semantics for a second, fun and arcadey racing games are undoubtedly sports games, just much less serious. If you were to narrow your dislike of the genre down to specific sub-genres, I could probably agree to a good extent. Some sports genres bore the hell out of me.

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