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    MacDougall Brothers Need to Go?

    There's just one thing that bothers me in Outlaw Star is with those two. I've been mad as hell of them not seeing them off at the end of the anime, and only getting wounded. Anyone here besides me want to see them off in a cruel and painful way? Or is it just me?

    I just don't like them after what they did to Hilda and gave Gene and crew such a hassle at times in the anime overall smh

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    (Spoilers ahead)

    They weren't as well developed as a lot of the other characters because they were never in the manga. Also, it depends how you look at it. I recommend watching the opening that's at 16:15 below:



    Harry died at the Galactic Leyline. He backed himself up to the Shangri La's computer. It all gets pretty confusing here when you consider that several people (like Gene) at the Leyline died when Gene and Hazanko fought, were "returned" to a state that isn't quite dead or alive, but existing as data until leaving the Leyline. (I'll leave the whole Outlaw Star philosophy for another day.)

    I know that wasn't the kind of response you wanted. I understand your opinion of the MacDougall brothers. Outlaw Star would have been so different if Hilda didn't die. She did die in the manga, but it was completely differently and for different reasons. I won't spoil any of that. Once you read it, it does make you feel a little differently about Hilda and not be as bothered by what happens in the anime.

    I think the way Ron died got wounded was a bit stupid. A caster that powerful would have killed him. Apparently, the Leyline decided he should live and sent him back to the Shangri La. In conclusion, I'm not really disappointed by what happened, but given what Outlaw Star 2 was supposed to be, the second season would have been better without them in it. So yes, it would have been better if they'd died. Killed them dead.
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    While they are a thorn in the crew's side, if they simply stuck to the manga the anime would have been brutally short and lacked a strong antagonist (or pair of them, as things turned out). The fact that you hate them for the things they do means they're effective antagonists. They're a necessary evil in the case of the anime adaptation.
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    I always felt like these two were annoying and unnecessary, so yeah, seeing them die would have been satisfying for me. Their inclusion didn't hurt the show that much overall, but I could have done without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zemekis View Post
    While they are a thorn in the crew's side, if they simply stuck to the manga the anime would have been brutally short and lacked a strong antagonist (or pair of them, as things turned out).
    If they sticked to the manga there wouldnt be an ending in addition to that.
    However, the anime had a rushed ending because there wasnt anouph budget for more episodes if Im not mistaken?


    I think they shouldnt have been removed yet if the anime had continued. They still had important information regarding Genes father.
    Just disappear before the stuff with Gene senior is concluded would be bad for junior.

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    Honestly, I think the anime's length was handled well. The MacDougall Brothers helped progress the different theme the anime adaptation has. After all, without them, Gene wouldn't have somebody(s) to hunt down as revenge for Hilda's and his father's deaths. Like Zemekis said, they're a necessary evil. The Galactic Leyline became much more important in the anime. They couldn't stretch that out for a second season. Therefore, they had to wrap that up in a single 26-episode season. That's why I don't think it was rushed.

    Regarding Gene's dad, the only person who might know anything is Ron MacDougall. It's unlikely he'd know anything anyway. Destroying his dad's ship (which looks very similar to the Fortuner from Future-Retro Hero Story) was, to Ron, just a little job. Gene's spacephobia was highlighted more in the first half of the show, but by the end I believe Gene had come to terms with his traumatic experience, phobia, and had become an all-around stronger person. I think that continuing the father plotline in a sequel would be beating a dead horse.

    However, there's a lot we don't know about Jim's dad, the Computer Wizard, who's in jail. Plus, there's the circumstances surrounding Jim's mother's death. (Speaking of which, we don't know anything about Gene's mother.) Now that could be interesting in a sequel if they visited Jim's homeworld, Homage.
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    I don't know if it was the lack of detail or just the way they were written but I never cared for them either. On the other hand, I feel like death in anime is meant to be done artistically and they weren't worth all that. lol

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