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    Melfina Smilies (Draft)

    After making some Aisha smilies for the site a long while ago, I had a quick go at trying some Melfina ones, too. However, they ended up being way too small and generally didn't turn out so good, so I just dropped them altogether. I recently found them again, however, so I decided to try and re-do them. Here's the draft result:

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-mel1-pngMelfina Smilies (Draft)-mellove-gif

    These are essentially WIP, so lemme know if you think something anything needs to be improved, since I think she looks kinda dopey in some of these...

    Higher Res.

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-mel2l-png

    Compared to the Gene sprites, Melfina's head and face look slightly smaller. (It was kinda difficult to give her a wider face, she looked manlier than Gene at one point.)

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-gm-png

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    These look great, I especially like how you did the hair. It may just be my monitor, but her skin tone looks a little too close to Gene's when she should be noticably more pale. Other than that, I think they're perfect!



    Edit: You've inspired me to try making a Gwen Khan smilie. It still needs a lot of work, but I think it's coming along well. I'll make my own thread when I have more to show.
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    I agree, I've edited the face to be slightly paler.


    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-melv21-pngMelfina Smilies (Draft)-mellove-gif

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-melv22-png


    That Khan one is a great idea, unique one-off sprites for side characters like Hilda and such would be cool.

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    Melfina Smilies (Draft)

    Yep, that's perfect!


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    They're so cute! The green face and angry at the end make me giggle. I think my favorite is the blushing one!

    Hari, that Khan is amazing! Blargh, I keep saying I should try but I never do. How the one I'd wanted is done either way though!
    "I don't know what words I can say
    The wind has a way to talk to me
    Flowers sleep, a silent lullaby
    I pray for reply
    I'm ready"
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    I approve.
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    This was a good idea Mantis.

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    This is great. I was thinking of tackling Melfina smilies after Fred Luo, but you've done a better job than I could probably do! I also love how a couple of them match her exact expressions in the show. And I guess it's tradition that all character smilies will have that green sick face and the love sick one.

    You asked for constructive crits. I don't have many, but I notice you're using the Aisha/Jim default (well, default to members rather than guests) background. If you haven't noticed already, you can choose backgrounds using a link at the top. Why this is important is that the Aisha/Jim background is probably lighter than a lot of the others. It becomes harder to see Melfina using the darker backgrounds. Try it out and you might see what I mean. Now I'm using your background, they look great. The reason Gene and Aisha look brilliant on all backgrounds is they're brighter and have more definition with their colour scheme.

    So what's the solution? I don't actually know. They do look great on brighter backgrounds, but the unregistered guest background is very dark. I'd recommend trying to give her hair a greyish outline, but it might look weird, so try experimenting and putting her in front of dark colours. The thing is, it's opposite at the moment. Dark inside, grey outside. Anyhow, sort of half-contrary to Hari's crit, I think her skin might be a bit too pale now, which makes it harder to distinguish her facial features. Maybe a tone that's halfway? Melfina's middle fringe (whatever you call it) is more prominent in the anime and is one of the first things you notice about her (at least for me) in her appearance, but I know how difficult it is to do these things in pixel art, so you might not be able to enlarge that or make it longer.

    Finally, that stray hair at the top doesn't seem so necessary. I'd say it appears some of the time in the anime but most of the time not. It's just a lot harder to get a small detail like that right with such a low pixel resolution. I just thought of something to try for that middle fringe. Try moving all of her frontal hair (except the fringe) up a pixel to better show it. I don't know if this will help, just a suggestion. Regardless of my criticisms, you've done an excellent job yet again!

    I don't think I've actually done that good of a job on Fred, but I had a lot of difficulty getting all the details just right. I still need to produce all of the normal smilies, so he can only be seen in one, but I'll show an earlier revision.

    Beer smiley: (Notice how I based Fred's skin tone on the show's colour, even though I realise Gene's isn't always that colour.)
    Early Fred: Melfina Smilies (Draft)-fredearly-png

    God damn, my earliest attempt was crap.


    Hari! It looks like we have a budding pixel artist! That Gwen Khan smiley is awesome, especially for a work-in-progress! I can't wait to see your thread on this.

    Oh, one more thing. Melubnio is to thank for this. I spent some time adding small icons for the different thread states, and we got into a bit of a disagreement about that. It's a Gilliam icon that was to replace the images in the forum indexes that represent threads. The images are normally folders. Maybe you guys can let me know what you think. (Not meaning to hijack the thread though.) Melubnio didn't like my changes because he thinks they cover it too much. So to explain in greater detail, first of all...

    Read thread: Melfina Smilies (Draft)-gilliam-grey-png
    Thread with new posts: Melfina Smilies (Draft)-gilliam-red-light-animation-2-gif

    So, there are a couple of icons that can appear on top of it. One is Gene's star if a thread is a "hot topic", then another is a padlock for a locked thread. So this is for a locked and read thread: Melfina Smilies (Draft)-thread_lock-30-png

    Now this is for an unread thread that is a hot topic but also locked. Hopefully you'll see how I'm making this work (and no time to animate it right now, but normally it will be animated like above): Melfina Smilies (Draft)-alltes1-png

    Any criticisms? Did I cover too much? This has been on the back-burner for too long now, so I'd like to just get these images on the site. Again, sorry for the hijack Skatetro, though I'm sure you guys'll be able to give me a quick answer on this.
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    Gene: "I don't!"
    Jim: "I knew it."
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    Oh that's right, I didn't think about the different backgrounds. I still think the skin tone looks fine as is, but yeah the hair does blend in a bit with the darker ones. Melfina's hair has been colored in more of a navy/purple hue at times, I wonder how that would look?



    A more extreme solution would be to draw her in the water tank to give her some kind of backdrop, which I imagine looking something like Richard Nixon in Futurama. It's just an idea, a dumb one but it is an idea.



    As for the Gilliam sprites, they look good to me and I don't really know what else you could do to signify 'this thread is locked' any differently, besides maybe having something that isn't Gilliam? Maybe a certain extremist mouse...? I don't know.

    Edit: While we're giving each other feedback, thoughts on these animations I put together?


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    Yeah, I see what you mean about the contrast on a dark background. I've made the skin colour slightly more saturated this time, and I've made the hair and its outlines brighter, but it's hard to get it right since it looks really jarring if it's too bright. As for the hairstyle, I've done 3 versions, so tell me which one you think works best.

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-e1-png

    As for the Gilliam post images, I'd need to see them in action, but I don't see why they wouldn't look good. They're unique, they fit with the sub's theme and they convey what they need to really well.

    (Also, IIRC the one strand of hair is pretty much drawn at random in the show - sometimes it appears, sometimes it doesn't. )

    EDIT: I just saw remembered Hari's reply, and realised that adding a hue would probably look a lot better.

    Melfina Smilies (Draft)-e2-png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hari View Post
    Edit: While we're giving each other feedback, thoughts on these animations I put together?


    I find it pretty hilarious that all of Gwen Khan's emotions can be summed up in 'rambling' and 'thinking'.

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