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    Do you think the story was cut short?

    I have seen people who said that the series should have kept going and others who say it was fine the way it ended. I never realized how short it was. I mean I still think even as a shorty series, it was great and very underrated. I have watched other animes that were only one season and really enjoyed them so I think it was fine.

    Either way, do you think Outlaw Star should have continued?

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    I think back then it was a pretty standard length. Nowadays more and more series are being produced without a reasonable budget and are at the kind of length that in western entertainment would be classed as "mini series"; i.e. thirteen episodes. Outlaw Star is double that. While I don't think it's necessarily short, I agree with others who say a lot wasn't explained.

    I'm challenging popular opinion here, but in the case of Outlaw Star I think that's actually not a bad thing. One of the main messages Outlaw Star delivers is the fascination in mysteries. Were it not for these mysteries I'm not sure I'd have made Nexus. I simply find the unexplored trivia—not to mention the amount of foreign media we've yet to fully uncover—so much fun.

    I was satisfied by the conclusion, nonetheless. It wrapped things up pretty nicely and gave you a good idea of what the crew would do if (hypothetically speaking) a sequel should happen, but without a huge teaser that suggests a sequel is coming but never does. Because nobody likes those. There is a screen at the very end that describes ongoing adventures, but I think it should always have been interpreted as something more metaphoric than anything. So long as there's a nice conclusion that's good enough for me. I'd much prefer that to a milked franchise.
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    Mantis, many others, and I have touched upon this back in the day. I'm torn on this subject, on one hand I would have loved to have seen a sequel or at least a Movie made for it. On the other hand, there was still a bit of filler episodes and the ending may have left it open for a sequel but it didn't hint towards a bigger plot or any more progression towards something else.

    My gut reaction is that I wanted more. But the way I feel about wanting more doesn't mean I was left unsatisfied with the series; it's because I loved the series and always want more of what I enjoyed. The universe was ripe for expansion but I think Angel Links showed that the universe might have been better off without expansion.

    It's difficult. I used to say sequel and more please! But now I'm contempt with the series for what it was.

    My only gripe with the show is that the art was always changing. Meaning characters would look much different from one episode to the next and it would be inconsistent. But that's not a story issue, more of an art direction issue.
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    My feeling when I first finished watching it was I wanted it to go on since I fell in love with the characters so much! With that being said, I'm happy with the length. The problem that I have with shows, this is especially towards shonen shows like Dragon Ball Z and Naruto, is that it goes on forever with filler and different arcs to the point where it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Outlaw Star had a perfect length. It was working towards something, it said what needed to be said and it didn't outstay it's welcome. Sure, I suppose the series could've been a bit longer if only to flesh out things that, IMO, could have been explored more (Like Suzuka's past and Jim and Melfina's mother and son relationship) but beyond that, I think it wasn't too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwind55 View Post
    My feeling when I first finished watching it was I wanted it to go on since I fell in love with the characters so much! With that being said, I'm happy with the length. The problem that I have with shows, this is especially towards shonen shows like Dragon Ball Z and Naruto, is that it goes on forever with filler and different arcs to the point where it doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Outlaw Star had a perfect length. It was working towards something, it said what needed to be said and it didn't outstay it's welcome. Sure, I suppose the series could've been a bit longer if only to flesh out things that, IMO, could have been explored more (Like Suzuka's past and Jim and Melfina's mother and son relationship) but beyond that, I think it wasn't too short.
    This is how I felt and kind of feel about many other shows that ended when they did or were "short lived".

    Like I have seen shows that I once enjoyed continue going on to the point where they got run into the dirt and became completely unrelatable to my tastes or likes, ultimately crushing the show entirely and ruining it for me. (talk about a run on sentence LOL) So in this, I do feel the same. Had it went on another season, or two, or even 10... It may have gotten to the point where I would have grown to dislike it. I would rather a show end at the peak of my interest then when I have lost hope in it entirely. I have questions left over but that is a good thing.

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    As Sparky here put it, "torn" is an apropos word for my feelings as well. It's a good question, though: as much as I would love more OS in my head, in reality I think I'd just rather leave it as it is...it ended on a good note, the main plot was resolved, and it left you with a feeling that the OS crew is just gonna' keep going on cool adventures, into the blue, and to me there's something romantic about that.

    I've seen enough of my beloved franchises get resurrected from the grave, only to be propped up as a money grab with no heart really put into it (or, worst-case scenario, all but ruined completely, e.g. Tenchi Muyo!); plus, the stars have to align just so in order for something like OS to come together at all in the first place: the odds of it happening again, getting everybody back together, aren't great, and I dunno' about ya'll but I'd be inexplicably, unreasonably persnickety if even one VA or the director or whoever didn't come back (that's the double-edged sword of trying to milk consumer nostalgia).

    I don't mean for it to sound defeatist, and maybe I'm just gettin' old, but I think there's something to be said about a series "dying with dignity" in a way, rather than be milked and milked and milked for money.

    (Darn it, here's the part where my brain goes, 'Well, on the other hand....')

    That being said...IF one were to continue the story (my apologies, this may be more suited to another thread entirely), I think maybe a little capstone or "filler" in the form of a movie like Bebop and Trigun got would be acceptable. And as for the story, this would be my vote: a friend of mine put the idea in my head (hope I got the right link), and if I'm recalling correctly, the story here is basically the serial killer is particularly targeting androids, like Melfina, which in my mind...say no more, that's a story right there...someone's sitting on a gold mine here, pun intended.


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    I think so. The manga was never finished and the anime finale was rushed as hell, it's pretty obvious they didn't know they weren't getting another season until it very late in the series, so they had to cram as much as they could into the last few episodes, therefore there was so much going on with precious little time to absorb it all. Had they known they weren't getting another season they might have cut back on the filler eps and dedicated more time to the series climax.

    Anyway the ending left the story open for more adventures, even if it's just more episodic adventures I'd just love to see the Outlaw Star crew back in action. Unfortunately due to poor sales/reception in Japan, plus the Angel Links spinoff doing even worse on both sides of the Pacific and pretty much burying the series for good, and the cancellation of the planned sequel being the final nail in the coffin, I don't think it's ever going to happen.

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    Do you think the story was cut short?

    Rushed and crammed? Hmm, I don't know about that. Three episodes were spent at the Leyline. That's an hour of content which is ample time in my opinion. There are a few filler episodes, but Demon of the Water Planet and Hot Springs Planet Tenrei were made afterwards and included as a bonus in the original Japanese DVD set.

    When you take those out of the equation since they're invalid (as they were produced a little later) I can only think of a couple of filler episodes. The great majority have a direct link to the storyline.

    Edit: I count three filler episodes, which is 3/24.
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    Ah yeah I forgot a couple of those weren't part of the original broadcast.

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